All in favour: Vancouver passes $10,000 gas-station-without-EV-chargers fee

is that gas stations with parking for more than 60 cars?

i'm not always in favor of government forced compliance at a serious cost to private businesses

 

that's what i figured. i'm definitely not in favor of forcing indies, and some don't have space for chargers.
i also don't buy the need for ocal charging to increase ev sales. that is an excuse from people who won't buy an ev after they are installed.
what we need more of is destination chargers, and cheaper ev's.

 

Vancouver Could Become Canada's 1st City Without A Downtown Gas Station | HuffPost

Operative word being “downtown”, still. And in all of Vancouver city, one source says 66 stations are left.


Motels would benefit from chargers?

 

agreed, hotels/motels/highway stations/reststops and the like.

they have to be places where people can spend a considerable amount of time, charging isn't like gassing up yet.

 

Well, all the parking lots need to be compliant are destination chargers. Unless near something of interest, the 50kW ones at a gas station aren't going to do much directly.

Cheaper BEVs would be great, but let's be real. The currently available models aren't having trouble selling, and they still have less range than a ICE car. Cheaper models will have less range. Combined with longish charge times, you need a public charger presence to assuage fears of getting stranded. Yes, under 200 miles is plenty for a majority of daily trips, but most of the public can't seem to grasp that. A single 50kW charger at every gas station is a psychological safety net to support the sales shift from early adopters.

 

For EVs, range is less important than fast DC charger density. Charger density has increased faster than my battery degradation.

Bob Wilson

 

136k to install one fast charger at a gas station? those guys must have deep pockets

 

120/240 Delta 3-phase gives you three 240 VAC circuits, each of which can charge a single car. However it is also possible to use three-phase power fed into rectifiers as DC power, which is likely how Telsa is using the power for 250 VDC charging.

 

Along with P-factor shaping.

Bob Wilson

 

So you could just put up some no parking signs until you only have 59 unrestricted spaces?

 

Well, that would assume that drivers actually obey the signs I suppose. Not suggesting that someone should hang up "No parking " signs but I think its within the realm of possibility. And were the city to hit poor economic conditions? nobody will have the cash to put in chargers, but some cheap signs could save a hanging-on low traffic business from ruinous fines.

Believe me, I'd rather see more chargers added- I just think the law is open to major loophole abuse.

 

in boston, there's no competition between parking garages, you take what you can get, and you like it