My sister in law went to start her Prius and all the lights came on and it won't start. Now she is trying to get a tow truck to take her car to the dealer, but she's parked head in at a small business building. It's in park... with IG on can the trans be put into neutral? Help!! Thanks
Spidey, +1 You thinkin' like I'm thinkin' that the pesky 12V battery gremlin is sneakin' round under the hatch area floor?
Her Prius is an 06, just hit 50K miles (Florida car). The tow truck operator jumped the small battery... using the proper method under the hood... and got the car into neutral. We have a 05 (Maine car), it's still on the original battery, and it's just above 94k miles. We are considering a new battery for it, before the one we have fails. What battery Gremlins lurk back there in that little battery compartment?
All too often,the 12V battery is a source of frequent complaints as it approaches/passes it's typical 4 yr. service life. Reductions occur when it is subjected to extremes of either heat -- Florida, parked in the open? -- or cold. Also, having to "jump start" the car, typically due leaving an interior light on, is usually the first step on the slippery slope to the 12V battery slowly dying, unappreciated, in the lonely dark uner the floor boards. When all is well with the 12V battery, its most important function is to boot the CPUs when the car is in READY, which then leads to the HV battery circuit breakers closing... vroom, vroom and off we go! Should the 12V battery get seriously discharged, as a point of reference ~12.0V, all manner of strange/annoying/enraging things can happen. In no particular order; "Christmas Tree" warning light dash display Car won't start Car won't turn off !!! Random, intermittent horn and/or wipers Severely reduced MPGs etc. Those are the gremlins, lurking, leering, way in the back.
Thanks, all. She did mention the "Christmas Tree" dash lights. OPTIMA still the battery of choice for us?
get a price from your dealer on an original and compare it to the time, trouble and cost of the optima.
Why? We anticipate needing to change ours out in the next year, and had thought that the Optima was a better battery than OEM. Please share your experience.
Just wondering if there is an explanation somewhere of how a low battery can affect MPGs? Not disputing it or anything, just curious....
Hi Rae: Optima + shipping + adapter is not much cheaper than the OEM, so long as you do not let the stealership install. I got five good years out of my original battery and actually only replaced it somewhat preventively, so I am unconvinced a quality difference exists between the two choices.
rpeeples, B. Roberts,, Good question. Answer here: http://priuschat.com/forums/newbie-forum/73400-weird-stuff-happening-mpgs-dropping-test-battery.html With thanks to Richard Schumacher.:rockon:
Hi All, The Optima battery is available at Advance Auto Parts. Be sure to check the manufacture date. So, once you have the Elearnaid adapter kit installed, its pretty quick to replace....
Dead battery horror stories abound here on this forum with regards to the OEM battery. This is one reason that people have been charged thousands when their IC pump fails, because after a short time of driving the car, the 12V voltage drops to the point that the computers get confused, and all kinds of spurious trouble codes get set. Nary a peep about Optima battery failures. Optima is a deep cycle battery, and the Prius application is perfect -- very low current draw to start the car, parasitic drains when the car is off. OEM is basically a motorcycle cranking battery, not designed for deep discharge. Optima requires a little more time, a little more trouble, MAYBE a little extra money. It's definitely worth it in my opinion. I have no financial interest in elearnaid.com
Yes, in IG-On you should be able to select N. But if you apply jumper power to get IG-On, you should be able to get Ready just as easily.
Like stated above, the Optima is a deep cycle Battery so deep discharges will not harm it as much as it would a standard battery. This is the reason we use them in high-powered car audio systems and portable electric fencing for livestock.
A weak battery takes more juice to maintain, so electrical generation has to take place more often, thus lowering gas mileage. Instead of producing miles, you are producing electricity to charge your underachieving battery.