Buying an EV

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    So I asked about the top EVs from Fueleconomy.gov and found by manufacturer:

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    Hyundai Ioniq 6 and Lucid Air Pure are both top performing models. The Tesla Model 3 and Chevy Bolt are less. But the Tesla comes with the SuperCharger network and the other three are native CCS-1 with limited access to SuperChargers. Then I looked at the purchase price like this from a Tesla e-mail:

    Model 3 now starts at $32,740 and Model Y starts at $39,990 after a $7,500 federal tax credit available for eligible buyers. You can also unlock three months of free, unlimited Supercharging when you take delivery of Model 3 by June 30, 2023.*

    Per Google and sources:
    • $41,600 to $52,600 Hyundai, CCS-1 native, 350 kW max rate
    • $138,000 to $249,99 Lucid, CCS-1 native, 300 kW max rate
    • $32,740 Tesla Model 3 (Tesla e-mail), Supercharger native, 170 kW max rate
    • $27,495 to $28,795 Bolt, CCS-1 native, 50 kW max rate
    A tip, Tesla drops the price in the last weeks of each quarter to move any existing inventory out. These happen four times per year which makes arranging financing a lot easier.

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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The Ioniq 6 has a 800-volt architecture, and can make use of 350kW chargers. EV-database and others report 233kW peak charging for the long range model. Not sure where 175kW would come from.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Mr Google but that might have been the peak rate on a 400 VDC charger. My understanding is Hyundai went with an internal, DC-to-DC, boost converter that may be speed limited. Regardless, I changed it to 350 kW, thanks!

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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Hyundai lists a kW output of the battery on the spec page, and the standard range was around 170kW.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I'm not changing my post again for a good and a bad reason:
    • 350 kW sounds great - GOOD ... I'm not in the market so let us be generous.
    • Managing user exceptions - BAD ... a lot of new EV owners are very happy until they start CCS-1 charging.
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    BTW, I noticed the top EPA rated "Hyundai Ioniq 6 Long range RWD (18 inch Wheels)" does not come up on the Ioniq web interface in Huntsville Alabama. I had to use Mr. Google to get the price. But then I'm managing 'user expectations' ...

    Curious YouTube "Convoy real range and efficiency test! Hyundai Ioniq 6 v Tesla 3":


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    i looked at hyundai, but found them expensive, and no real track record.