There are tons of articles floating around reporting different bits of info. Here are some examples. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../703010358/1148 http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/02/28/038637.html http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/02/28/038638.html http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/02/28/038606.html http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070301/pl_u...lincoln_improve http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070301/ap_on_...o_reliability_8 You can definitely find more via searches like this: http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p...s+toyota&c=. Most of the info isn't too surprising to me since I follow CR.
I just glanced briefly at the top link. I was surprised that Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily) scored tops among domestic automakers.
I like that Consumer Reports has not ties whatsoever to any products. CNNMoney Best Car Gallery > http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/autos/...icks/index.html The score: Toyota - 4 Honda - 3 Infiniti(Nissian) - 2 Mazada - 1 Detroit - 0 Europe - 0 Is it too much to ask Detroit to simply make the best cars? It's the American way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Delta Flyer @ Mar 1 2007, 06:32 AM) [snapback]398405[/snapback]</div> The American way is to make the most profit for investors. They don't do that very well, either. But making the best cars would require a commitment to the consumer, and that is a concept Detroit has always fought against tooth and nail.
This list is another nice addition to the thread. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-0...port-list_x.htm
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cwerdna @ Mar 1 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]398571[/snapback]</div> So much for the "hybrid premium". I notice that unless you buy a budget or small car, you'll pay as much or more for another car as you will for a Prius.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 1 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]398620[/snapback]</div> I'm going to have to disagree w/the above. There's definitely still an upfront price premium. Here are some examples and some Edmunds TMVs for midsize 4 cylinder cars. All these cars have way more power and the first two cars (maybe all 3) should have more interior room than a Prius. Nissan Altima 2.5S (175 hp 4) w/CVT: $20915 Camry CE (158 hp 4) w/auto: $19678 (I see some advertised locally at http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ad...74&cat=3379 for $17988) Pontiac G6 base (169 hp 4) w/auto: $17,765 after $1K incentive As you pointed out as well, you can definitely get budget/small cars for much cheaper. Here are some examples: A local dealer is advertising a Corolla CE at http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ad...51&cat=3379 for $12988. http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ad...72&cat=3379 Ford Focus for $9995.