EV Only PIP Hypermiling Techniques

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  1. Alyn99

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    Apologize in advance if the thread for this here is obvious. I'm looking for EV ONLY hypermiling advice for my PIP, but only find threads for overall combined driving techniques. I have a 2014 PIP Advanced in the Los Angeles area so climate is always warm (60-80). Car is new so range after charge always shows 13 - 13.2. I've seen some posts where folks say they get 20 miles from a charge and would love some pointers on how to do it. I am in the right climate for it. I usually drive alone, without cargo and tires inflated to 44f/42r. I routinely get 65mpg on long 100mile+ trips with just one charge so I think I'm doing well there. But most days I need about 15 miles of EV range and would love to avoid the ICE starting. Roads where I am are relatively flat, speeds are below 45, mostly 25-35. I do find in HV mode I do better hypermiling without ECO on. In EV it is the reverse. I seem to get longer range in EV mode with ECO on as it modulates input better. I do not use the A/C and even wish I could disable the Nav as I rarely use it and it's probably hogging some juice, albeit a minimal amount. I pulse and glide when I can in EV mode (HV also) so I think I've got that dialed in. Are there any EV techniques I am missing? Shift into neutral at long lights? Parking button at long lights? Anyone getting 15 miles or better in EV range please chime in?
     
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    i believe the conclusion is that it's impossible to extract more out of the motor as it is with an ice. the best you can do is slow acceleration as possible and slow speed as possible. there is an efficiency curve for motors but no one has been able to locate one for the pip and it would probably be 20 mph or some such anyway.
     
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    Only time I was able to get near 20 miles of EV range was on a flat road going to and from the airport on back roads in the middle of the night at a steady 25 mph and very few stops.

    The adage repeated here is true - "drive like you have no brakes". Hills, lot's of stop and go, stop signs/lights, cold temperatures, high speeds eat up EV range. 15-20 mph is probably the sweet spot for max EV range. Unfortunately it's a rare thing that most of these things line up in the real world.

    A small amount of pressure on the accelerator to avoid regen when coasting can help. Also, avoid aggressive braking that exceeds regen's max capacity when braking.
     
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    Before you take off, write down the odometer and the EV reading , when you use up all the EV, check the odometer reading and compare.
     
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    i can close in on 20 miles by driving an average of 22 mph on fairly flat roads with fairly few stops in good weather. best i can do in 'real life' driving is around 15-16, no highway speeds.
     
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    For a production car, the Prius does a damned good job of squeezing the most miles out of a gallon of gasoline. But there are countless ways to improve mileage, most of which exact a high penalty from performance and/or price.

    For example the drag coefficient could be further reduced, but do you want to drive something that looks like a pencil on wheels? The engine could be smaller, but do you want to double the amount of potential road-rage from people following you in traffic?

    My point is that the Prius is a fine piece of engineering, and further tampering can only diminish its appeal.
     
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    find routes which decline. use the maps and keep track of the hills.
    You asked.
     
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    And then hire a truck to haul you back to the top of the hill where you started.
     
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    Just like towing a Leaf when it runs out of charge to recharge it.

    use a different route to get back with less incline,
    good maps are essential