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Sounds like they learned a lot from Tesla manufacturing. Maybe they will follow them on their 48-volt architecture too. Would LOVE to see a FORD PGEV pickup with ~150 miles RANGE, & DCQC. AFAIK Dodge is beating them to the punch with that.

 

Meanwhile,
Dodge 'may' be leaning back the other way......
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a65630450/dodge-charger-hellcat-return-speculation/

Hey....they tried to replace the Hellcat Challenger with an EV,
They were even going to use haptic feedback in the car to imitate an 'authentic V8.'
......the new cars could do more than just create a convincing synthetic engine note. In fact, in the patents it appears as if there will be a secondary contraption called the Active Vibration Enhancement (AVE) system to generate "vibrations within the vehicle's structure..."

Hellcats were all supposed to be gone by now but........

Me?
I think we can have it BOTH ways!!
I'm a bit of an EV booster, but I also want to live in a world where there is a car maker who will offer a three-row SUV with 8 seatbelts, an 8000# towing capacity, and still be able to make commercials like THIS:
https://youtube.com/shorts/EbK628p8PPU?si=Uh1zV5yfcL5RE_L_

 

marketing hype for the wall street swindlers. farley is a blowhard

 

They're bleeding cash and losing money on every EV they "sell". Lost more than a billion last quarter. I predict a mostly plastic truck that's held together by zip ties, glue, and lots of pray. Look under the hood of current Ford products, everything is one-time-use. They won't even spring for hose clamps.....

With tariffs ON, how are they going to source the raw materials for their fantasy builds? Who's paying $87K for a Ford Lighting? So now they decided to do mass production and a car for the masses again.

Good Luck.....

 

Eh, Ford's losses are mostly in the form of front loading the R&D investment for the EV division onto the cars sold today. It is the same accounting used to claim the Volt, Teslas, and even the Prius were losing money per unit sold for cars priced to cover their production costs plus profit.

 

isn't that the same line used against PRIUS gen II's ? & in fact they WERE likely losing their shirts in those early days - but it was forward thinking into the modern day benefit of electrification. Blood is necessary sometimes

 

In the first years, I call it 'tuition in the school of hard knocks.' My 2003 Prius had some dozy limitations but learning how to drive around them, I achieved 52 MPG City and Highway:

• Minimize warm-up duration and load.
• Speeds never exceed 65-70 mph range.
• Air inlet block when below 50 F.
• A/C only above temperatures ~85 F (humid) to ~92 F (dry)

Later model years with improved engineering reduced or eliminated many of these restrictions.

Bob Wilson

 

there are very few reasons for consumers who know nothing about technology, and are not concerned with climate change to buy an electric car.
without government incentives, it might never happen. that might be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your point of view, but governments do these things all the time, and it will never end.
it just changes with admins and congress.

 

currently, that is not a reason. in fact, it's just the opposite. and with the lost of the tax credit, the gap widens.
no american companies have shown that they can make an ev cheaper or even the same price as a gasser, at similar profitability, and we have no idea what a chines ev built to n/a standards would cost.

 

everyone is trying to compete. i'll believe the hype when it becomes reality.
by the time ford makes a competitive ev, everyone will have forgotten this presser, and farley might not even be ceo

 

They are building to European and Australian standards, so we make an educated estimate of the cost for the US.

I don't think you can make an EV cheaper than a pure gasser. There are more costly materials needed for the EV. How much copper is in the motor? The EV can have lower total costs though. Which is likely the case for much of Europe.

 

but you can't make the case to most of the american car buyers

 

This is an issue beyond EVs, and why the range of choices to us is less than elsewhere.