GM begs, yet again, not to have to recall Takata airbags

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  1. pilotgrrl

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    The company disclosed its third petition to escape the recalls on Tuesday in a filing with securities regulators . The financial stakes are high. If the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration lets GM out of the recalls, the company says it could save $1 billion and avoid recalling up to 6.8 million full-size pickup trucks and SUVs from the 2007 to 2011 model years.

    For 3rd time, General Motors seeks to avoid Takata recalls

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    They should only be excused from the recalls if they buy back all the unsafe vehicles at market price. They should not be let off the hook.
     
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    isn't tamara on the hook, or are they bankrupt?
     
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    And Mary Barra is allowing this? Wasn't she responsible for finally trying to end all the riff raff of the ignition switch scandal and put it behind them by firing those responsible for trying to squelch the accidents and the lawsuits against them?

    Shameful actions on GM's part. Oh, poor poor GM. Maybe the government can bail them out again. And again.
     
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    Please read the article which also says:

    . . .
    In the filing, GM says the front-passenger inflators were custom-made for its trucks by Takata with bigger vents and stronger steel end caps than other inflators. No truck inflators have blown apart on roads or in extensive laboratory testing, the company says.
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    GM hired Orbital ATK, a Virginia rocket science firm that determined the cause of Takata's air bag explosions, to test its truck inflators. As of December, Orbital ATK had checked 648 GM inflators by simulating heat and humidity cycles, finding that they would perform as designed for 30 years, according to GM. The automaker said that in 4,907 more inflators tested in labs and in 63,000 air bag deployments on real roads, none of the truck and SUV inflators malfunctioned.
    . . .

    Ammonium nitrate burns rapidly and if confined, explode the container. It can also detonate when a shock-wave replaces burning. If the GM container survives a deliberate detonation of an equivalent amount of ammonium nitrate, in effect containing the detonation yet inflating the air bag, GM's claim has merit. But I would want to see the 3d party confirmation.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Takata is providing the parts but there are other expenses for a recall. Labor, inventory, notifications etc.
     
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    +1

    I'm not a shill for GM, but I'm also not a shill for Yota, and I remember all of the 'piling-on' that occurred during the unintended acceleration flap-o-rama quite vividly.

    ...still.....make that 2-3rd party confirmation tests.
    Trust is earned. ;)
     
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    That is provided they do not deploy when not needed.:eek:
     
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    GM has been replacing the parts all along, they're just saying the ones in certain vehicles are ok, even though they were made by Takata. A friend just had the inflator changed in his Silverado under the recall.
     
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    Hey! I like my toy Ota. I'm just not sure what I'd do with a real Ota.
     
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    Back in 1966 when I was a little kid, my dad bought a brand new Toyota Corona and we used it to go to North Carolina and visit my grandparents. When we pulled into their driveway, my grandfather walked up to the car and asked "what in the hell is a Ty Ota?".
     
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    #12 Prodigyplace, Feb 11, 2018
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