Help troubleshooting check engine light / coolant light turning on / coolant getting burned

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  1. DigitalSonic

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    Had a catalytic converter stolen not too long ago and had to get it replaced. After work was done replacing the catalytic converter, check engine light and coolant temperature light started turning on and off while I was driving.

    Brought it to a shop, coolant levels were low. First shop couldn't pinpoint exact problem but noted that thermostat was reading unusually high (270F or so), which they said shouldn't be possible while the car was running. Coolant levels were topped off, but kept dropping and reservoir was half or low after driving for a bit and leaving it overnight.

    Brought it to a dealership and they said they did a pressure test and couldn't find any leaks. They noted that the radiator was clogged and recommended replacing the radiator, the thermostat, and the radiator hoses as well as a radiator flush. They said coolant was being burned thats why the coolant levels kept dropping even after refilling.

    Tried to get the radiator replacement done at a different shop with online bought parts but a lot of shops are refusing to do the work saying it might be a head gasket issue.

    Any ideas whether or not its actually a radiator issue or a head gasket issue? Or perhaps something else I completely missed?

    I did check my oil dip stick and did not notice anything milky white in color (sign that a head gasket is blown supposedly) if that helps.
     
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    In this model you generally will not get the oil looking like coffee light ready to drink. So you generally won't see that in this model coolant won't boil and burn up generally speaking in this model If it is the engine's probably fried. Head gaskets are very common failures also very common as people pouring in block sealant or instant head gasket repair in a bottle that will clog your cooling system almost immediately I don't care what anybody says The radiators in the Prius are pretty danged good setups they don't just get clogged up because they wear out or they get old they generally get clogged up because somebody put something in it that doesn't belong in it how did they determine the radiator was clogged generally you tilt the fans back or you make access so you can get to the back side of the radiator core when the engine is completely warmed up even leave it running if you like and you run your hand across the whole radiator core from top side to side down the bottom You're looking for dead cold spots generally in the middle of the radiator so all around the rectangular core of the radiator is hot as all get out and dead in the middle of the radiator you can lay your hand there and leave it all day It doesn't get to near the temperature as the rest of the outer rectangle of the core of the radiator If this is the case sounds like you have the center of the radiator plugged probably by head gasket fix in a bottle no matter whose brand it is that makes no difference If you don't have that going on with your hand running over the core at temperature your radiator is probably not clogged they are very good assemblies The cheap aftermarket assemblies may not be so good or maybe the aftermarket covers this car and you can get an aluminum radiator with no plastic tanks it'll all be silver not positive of that but I know I can get them for my Corollas.
     
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    Kind of a strange statement. Perhaps they meant leaking past head gasket into combustion chamber.

    How long have you had it, and what’s the miles? If recent purchase seller may have added stop leak product.
     
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    Hi. Its approaching 155k miles last I checked. It was originally bought new from the dealer. I've not heard of any gasket issues in its history. There has been an oil burning issue however, where the oil must be replenished every so often due to the engine "burning" it.
     
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    So to update this thread:

    Brought it to a more competent dealership and they did a chemical block test.

    Dealership determined that the head gasket is letting gas into the cooling system causing the cooling system to report very high temperatures as well as sending gas/coolant out of the radiator overflow tank.

    Inverter water pump is also reporting as possibly having failed by the computer.

    Dealership says the rest of the car engine looks ok. They quoted a price that is very high and unaffordable for me.

    1. Would this be a case of needing a new engine? Would it make sense to have the car towed somewhere far away for repair? (Live in So. Cal)

    2. For a complete novice with 0 tools and experience, how hard would it be to attempt the repair myself? Would it even be worth it?
     
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    It's a generation 3 too bad It's 2ZFXE Atkinson cycle engine probably in the toilet. Your best bet is a JDM spec engine or a low mileage Gen 3 or 4 engine in your country wherever that is in America finding a low mileage 2ZFXE Prius engine. Will be a big task everything here is going to have 100,000 mi on it maybe 60 if you're lucky extremely lucky. And you will pay $4,000 plus for it an engine from the JDM market with around 65K on it you'll pay $1,300 for so you tell me what you should be doing.
     
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    Definitely not best job to start with. Are you serious about your level of experience? Have you done oil changes or similar? Brakes? Plugs?
     
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    I imagine in the manual which is probably online here somewhere there are tests you can do with a test meter probably on the ohms scale to read the resistance cold and the resistance at a known temperature and if you get the right readings on your meter then the sensor is good generally speaking these things rarely fail on Toyotas and just make a note to yourself It is possible but it's very rare to be honest about it and 40 years I might have changed two temp sensors and probably one of those changes was unnecessary I'd almost bank on it but it was a long time ago I generally keep cars for 12 to 20 plus years when I get them and I mean driving them not just parked in the yard somewhere they have tags insurance and someone sitting in the driver seat.
     
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    Take it to Hybrid Pit for a solution that is more affordable. Head gaskets or ruined engines are common on this generation. It is absolutely not a first time diy repair.