Reward honesty: I ordered April 26th 2005 by phone. I was #11 on waiting list on June 10th and no VIN information. Last January I got my deposit back after the car came in 4months. I wasn't ready as had been told to expect 8 months wait. This was an 8wk wait in Renton, WA. Not a penny over the MSRP posted @ buyatoyota.com. My only complaint is I could only get a partial VIN just a few days earlier and no warning of delivery date. I wish I could have tracked the order myself. It was worth the drive from Portland to Seattle to get it. Little known fact: I would have had it delivered to a local dealership, since the delivery cost in the same, except that I had a trade-in. Your not stuck using gready local dealers.