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  1. asjoseph

    asjoseph Samuel, '04 Ruthiemobile

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    ... finally, EV people tearing our roads asunder compelled to start paying their fair share, looks to be an additional US$250 per annum they'll be hit, renewing their tags:

    Here's what's in Trump's 'Big, Beautiful Bill' | Just The News

    Mention made, federal assessment on all hybrid vehicles, to replenish the highway fund, anybody have any idea what they'll have in store, for the likes of us?

    Looks to be a no-win, for the likes of me. Senior citizen on a limited income, DMV people hit me with an abusive renewal fee, I'd have to sell off my trusty, efficient Gen II, go back to driving my gas guzzling Subaru -


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  2. bisco

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    looks like you're going to get zinged to. thank you repubs. all vehicles should pay by weight and miles driven, but that would be too sensible for politics, and this is all about sticking it to your dems.
     
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    Give up and move to the UK.
    Road tax on my Gen 2 is £10 ($13) per annum and you can pay it in installments if you want.
    They don't check exhaust fumes in the MOT for hybrids so no OEM cats necessary either.
    Downside is the price of gas.
     
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    States I thought have been adding tax for ev cars for a while when I got my vote I had to pay I don't know 125 or $250 a year or something so I guess we're talking something Federal now or something?
     
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    yes, it's in the big, beautiful bill. on top of what some states are adding, just like state and federal gas taxes.
    just wait until the big beautiful bill comes due :eek:
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    It will be $100 for your plain, no plug hybrid. Couple of threads about these fees already.
     
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    Time to sell
     
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    I don't think in North Carolina anything is going to seriously change not enough to get me out of my $700 to $1,000 Prius anything else I buy would be just as costly if not way more costly so.
     
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    That’s how I feel about my bolt.
    $23,500. New, I’m not going to let the pubs cancel me
     
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    I looked at a bunch of those and was going to buy one of the ones that had the fire capability and all that but had a new battery put in it to 2037 and all this kind of stuff I could have bought a couple of them for $8,000 but I wound up instead buying some volts and we really like those next will be bolts probably unless gear Hyundai sneak something in really cool from China I'm trying to hold out and wait for solid state batteries or any of the nonsense that's coming so that right after I buy something stupid doesn't drop like immediately. But the volt does us right for almost same money as Prius
     
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    Mine is still worth 20k after 20 months and 9,000 miles.
    The future? It wasn’t an investment
     
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    "They don't check exhaust fumes in the MOT for hybrids so no OEM cats necessary either."

    Wow. That such a statement does not even ripple the waters here, wow again.

    Perhaps unlikely that one can convince onboard computers to allow operation without 'right-looking' signals from before and after oxygen sensors. So perhaps this is not a possible thing.
     
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    Do they even have cats in China?
    One of my overwhelming memories of Beijing was crossing the road: You were almost choking to death by the time you got to the other side :):):)
     
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    Our hybrids have to get a smog check once a year in Massachusetts.
    These days, they just connect to the obd.
     
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    siamese?
     
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    In terms of domesticated variations of Felis catis, I have seen many of the 'out there' examples here including Maine Coons and Sphynx.

    Long ago somewhere in California, a Russian Blue adopted me and he was great. My Manx was a shit (can I say that here?) and eventually pushed a local dog too far and got her neck broke for it. Not examples from China; just ruminating...

    Most cats I see here are generic, outdoor/feral, fed probably in hopes of mousing and ratting. But probably better against burds.

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    One other by name of Hulu merits mention. Family cat, not boutique breed, he was uniquely agreeable to playing 'fetch'.
     
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    Y'all had me totally flustered. I neglected to log-on, so saw some posts I would normally never see.

    I sort of dropped into the middle of this one and saw "no cats in China" and thought that cannot be correct...meow...
     
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    are they also food, or is that a fallacy?
     
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    There is at least one town where domestic cats are food items. I forgot where. As far as that goes, dog 'at' mealtime is much more widespread. Some associates discreetly ordered that for one dinner to see if they could gross me out. Mission Accomplished.
     
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