So I asked this question of the dealer, but I really don't think he had any clue... Obviously oil changes only have to do with hybrid engine use. Apparently there is a tracker that shows how many miles until the next oil change. I almost never use the hybrid engine (for normal daily driving, I stay in EV mode the whole time). I've probably only driven 100 of my first 1000 miles on HV. How do I know how many hybrid miles I've driven so I know when I need to do the oil change?
there's a counterin there somewhere, o/m should have it. one thing to be cautious of is not changing the oil often enough if you don't drive hv much. i change it once a year, because i only do a thousand hv miles, but a lot of it falls under the 'hard use' category because the engine spends so much of its time warming up. in gen 3 engine, i'm already having problems at 30k hv driving. maybe i should have changed the oil every 6 months, idk. i hope the gen 4 engine is better.
The Gen4 engine is better. My 2016 Prius showed no weakness until killed by a kamikaze deer in 2020 and my 2020 AWDe now has 35k miles with no problems. JeffD
only thing is, with prime, you have completely different operating parameters. but i do agree with you, and the egr system seems better so far.
This question comes up occasionally. The official answer would be to consult the Toyota USA publication Warranty and Maintenance Booklet. For your 2022 Prius Prime that'd be yearly or 10K miles, whichever comes first. In other words, Toyota makes no distinction between regular fourth gen Prius and Prius Prime. It's your call. Personally, I'd stick with the Toyota USA recommendation, if I was in the States, had a Prime and your mostly EV driving style. With a regular 4th gen Prius I'd go to the extreme service interval spec'd by Toyota USA, which halves the months/miles. I'd also use that for a Prime which was mostly driven in hybrid mode.
In all my previous ICE vehicles, being from Canada, I had to follow a different schedule than the USA. My maintenance had to be performed sooner. I couldn't see anything regarding that in the manual (which somehow lacks a maintenance schedule altogether) and even online, they only mention service 1, 2 or 3 (with 2 and 3 alternating). No mention of sparkplugs, coolant, transmission oil, etc)...
i think they dropped the maintenance schedule at some point to confuse consumers and let dealers wreak havoc in the marketplace due to covid sales losses. try searching earlier years
Yeah that happened with advent of 4th gen. Maybe part of their continuous improvement credo… I think you can see the full schedule, on the website, and if you go through it, event by event, you could probably cobble a readable spreadsheet. In 4~5 hours. Which is almost certainly how their schedule started…
Forgot, I've already gone through that excercise: If you can't open Excel documents, I could compile a pdf from it.
That tracker is just a count down of miles driven since it was reset. Toyota just has a set miles or time interval regardless of whether the car is an ICE, hybrid, or PHEV. They were providing two years of maintenance, might as well as follow their schedule for that period. There should be a percent EV use display in the menus that could use to figure out how many miles the engine ran, if you don't want to follow Toyota's ICE car centric schedule. A note in that case, a Volt driven nearly all electric miles would go 2 years between changes of synthetic oil.
It is a secret. Toyota could have given us an hour meter of engine hours and an oil change spec for that. Or Toyota could have given us a count of total gallons (or liters) of gasoline consumed and a speck for oil changes with that. They didn't think we had a need to know. So to the oil & filter changes according to the owner's manual, 10k miles or 1 year.
Lol, that wouldn't surprise me. I've seen online maintenance schedule with "dealer recommended" captions beside some of them.
Way too long. Looking at Toyota's Warranty and Maintenance Guide for my 2018 (it's the same for your 2017), the standard toyota outlines is: 5,000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes FIRST. Also, if you get a chance, take a look at this. He puts out decent content.
Even for 2022, it's still the same. 5,000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. Page 40 of the PDF.
The attachment shows first reg oil change at 10k mile or 12 months, recommends halving those only for extreme conditions. Page 40 stipulates a “maintenance” every six months, but if you flip forward a few pages it spells it out. There is a tire rotation every 6 months.
The 5k/6 mo service is only a tire rotation and inspection to find some service to sell you. 10k oil drain period is not a problem. First, it is very unlikely that the engine has run 10k. Even if it has, these engines have a relatively large oil capacity for their size and use only synthetic oil which oxidizes more slowly and has other benefits to extend its life. If one is concerned, a $35 oil analysis a couple of times will show the condition of the oil. https://www.blackstone-labs.com/product/oil-sample/ After a couple of analyses from one's routine driving periods you'll know how the oil holds up vs. just guessing.
