1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Source: AAA: Americans Slow to Adopt Electric Vehicles | AAA Newsroom
    • High battery repair costs (62%) and
      • $1k for 5-way thermal bottle replacement
      • $9k for 47 kWh replacement battery
    • purchase price (59%) are cited as key barriers to go fully electric. Other top concerns identified in this year’s survey were the perceived
      • $24 k ~= $40 k - $18 k (trade-in)
    • unsuitability of EVs for long-distance travel (57%),
      • Huntsville to Las Vegas, Los Angles, Arizona, home
    • a lack of convenient public charging stations (56%), and
      • Have peed in the bushes and behind transformers
    • fear of running out of charge while driving (55%).
      • Once parasitic load cooling of battery caught me on a hot day.
    • Thirty-one percent of those undecided or unlikely to buy an EV have safety concerns,
      • AutoPilot saved my family when I had a medical event in the first month
    • 27 percent reported challenges installing charging stations at their residences, and
      • Own home
    • 12% cited the potential reduction or elimination of tax credits and rebates. According to AAA’s 2024 Your Driving Cost analysis,
      • Converted TSLA stock to solar roof for free, local driving, +90%
    • EVs had the second-highest total ownership costs due to depreciation,
      • Tesla offers $8.5 k for 6 year old, 152,000 mi, modified, MY CAR!
    • purchase prices, and
      • Tesla will take trade-ins like my former 2017 Prius Prime
    • finance charges.
      • Also insurance fees
    This means is now is a buyer's market for end of lease EVs. Buy with cash and have a happy.

    Bob Wilson
     
  2. hill

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  3. bisco

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    I’m still waiting for prices to go down noticeably.
    I watch used purchases over at bolt.org, and as far as I can tell, used cars of most all kinds are still expensive, despite many media claims.
    When challenged, they can’t come up with proof
     
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  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Because of "Likely," I take that with a grain of salt. But then I'm also biased for my EVs.

    I am fully committed:
    • Solar roof for EV and PHEV charging ... free miles.
    • Replaced Tesla battery, $9k, at 152,000 mi
      • Front end suspension "rebuilt" $3k at 152,000 mi
    • Added used, 2017 BMW i3-REx as backup to Tesla
      • 37 MPG at 70 mph on the highway, if needed
    EVs have interesting characteristics and mine do not bore me. Along with Full Self Driving, I seldom manually drive my Tesla.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  5. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

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    As far as bevs go, we are likely going to see a decline in sales for awhile.
    Same with renewables.
    Meanwhile, other countries are outpacing us.
    Not that it really matters, seems too late for climate change, and people will make personal decisions based mostly on finances.
    The good news is, I suppose, is that hybrids continue to grow, and mpgs along with them.
    Although, even those seem subject to politics, unfortunately
     
  6. Isaac Zachary

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    My wife saw a 2013 Nissan Leaf for sale for $2,000 that still had 8 bars left. She really wants it.

    On the other hand, we're facing the probability of our rent increasing by quite a bit, which is the major reason I'm looking to cut back anywhere and everywhere we can, including our car ownership.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I once had to choose between my late wife and a Cherokee 140. I let the wife keep me 43 years. If we adjust for the months and days, 42 years, "The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything."

    Bob Wilson
     
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