2017 Prius: Battery draining after turning on

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  1. elmerg

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    Hi all.

    2017 Prius and trying to diagnose some issues. I recently (beginning of March) had to get new tires and change the 12v battery which died. Ever since, I've been having significant mpg issues - gone from 50-54 to hard to get above 47-48. I thought it was just needing to relearn my habits/battery health, and low due to the cold which has happened, but my normal driving methods don't seem to be making an impact. I've got an appointment at the shop, but I would love to be able to deal with it myself if possible. At this point I feel like the battery is going, but I guess we'll see.

    - Hybrid battery inconsistently drains fast after turning on car - sometimes it will maintain but most times it will drain quickly, less than three minutes, once car is on. I can go from nearly full bars to 2 bars. Once it does this, it takes some time for the ICE to recharge it up a bar.
    - When driving and braking, the traction battery seems to take longer than it used to to start recharging. Once it actually recharges, then it goes up decently fast.
    - Sometimes when I barely press the gas, it immediately drops out of EV mode and the ICE revs high based on the sound it makes. This will persist for a while, if i brake to a stop it'll go into EV mode, then do the same thing.
    - I have had it go out of EV mode with full battery and moving at less than 10mph after engine has warmed up. It sometimes

    I've checked the 12v which reads 12.3 at idle and goes up to 13.7 while running. I've checked the battery connections and they're not loose. Checking the fans is next. I do have a dead TPMS I need to get replaced, based on the dash lights (it's the only light) and the Veepeak codes that were returned. There were a couple of other electrical codes, but it was things like the collision detection; I can rerun them and post if needed.

    Anyone had a similar experience? Any thoughts on other things to check for? Any input is appreciated. I'm not the most car-savvy individual when it comes to doing mechanical myself, but I'd like to try in case it is something more minor I can have my more mechanically-inclined husband look at. Thanks in advance!
     
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    how many miles on her?
    new tyres can cause mpg drop, what model and brand?

    get a fre 12 volt load test at most auto part stores. even though almost new, 12.3v is low.

    sounds like the hybrid battery has a bad cell. perhaps the veepeak isn't reading all the codes
     
  3. ChapmanF

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    Getting hot enough down there to work the A/C harder? That'll drain the traction battery quicker.
     
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    You've got an 8 year or 100K mile warranty on that traction battery. Take it to a dealership to get it checked out - if your still within warranty.
    The mpg loss is most likely caused by your new tires, but a weak traction battery will also cause this.
     
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    I can tell you that my experience with a weak hybrid battery sounds like your symptoms. About 4-5 mpg drop due to reduced hv battery capacity to help the engine, fast discharge resulting in an engine start (sometimes at a traffic light), all while using the ac and sometimes slow recharge on the freeway (probably because more engine power is needed to maintain speed). No hybrid battery codes ever.

    Replacing the hybrid battery with new oem solved it all. Better mpg, never an engine start at a light and faster top offs on the freeway.

    Normally the hv battery stays fully charged except after longer idles of 15-25 minutes with the ac on while occasionally waiting for the wife. I minimize this scenario which also causes wide engine temperature changes. (Note: Longer idle times have shorter cycles between engine on as the hybrid system only partially recharges the hv battery each time).

    Again, no codes as the original hv battery was still functioning. The dealer won't be much help unless it codes.

    Some believe the paid Dr Prius phone app has an accurate hv battery capacity test. I find it is too variable on the same car but it's about the easiest indicator. You do some forced high rpm charging in D with the brake on and then drain it according to instructions in an effort to test capacity.

    See Dr Prius demo pics below
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    #5 rjparker, Jun 6, 2025 at 6:19 PM
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    You didn't say how many miles on her, but I'm betting your model has the Nickel-Metal Hydride (NiMH) traction battery. These are the classic symptoms of NiMH losing performance based on age/miles. Only thing to do is have the battery cells tested and reconditioned.
     
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    The A/C is variable power, anywhere from 250 to over 2500 watts depending on how hard it needs to work, so reports of how long the battery charge holds up "with the A/C on" can be highly variable with conditions.