I think we have discovered the problem. Deniers can't read! Skruse wrote: "The 4th IPCC report is linked to 30,000 peer-reviewed published articles," and Tim read "please show us the link for the "30,000 scientists". The fact of the matter is, there is only one chapter - chapter 9 - that deals with attribution (i.e., what is causing climate change). That chapter had just 53 authors. That is a pretty far cry from 30,000." A not so subtle distinction, and a simple way of clouding an issue. Present information as fact, when it reality it error. If you wish to make up something, thats your business, but at least quote people accurately! Icarus