Atlantic hurricane season

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  1. tochatihu

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    Yes, but rebuild where?

    Houston has recently reduced its water infiltration capacity - a lot

    Boomtown, Flood Town

    The wisdom of staying on that path will be debated, and unfortunately conflated with climate change hydrology. And with any ameliorative efforts being painted "anti-development".
     
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    when do the fema trailers arrive?
     
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    A recently rescinded Executive Order will figure into discussions:

    WHITE HOUSE: Trump kills plan to protect projects from rising seas -- Wednesday, August 16, 2017 -- www.eenews.net

    It is criticized for mentioning climate change, but I think it's not controversial that sea level will be higher in future. That is only aspect of climate change that heavily overlaps the Exec Order

    Executive Order – Establishing a Federal Flood Risk Management Standard and a Process for Further Soliciting and Considering Stakeholder Input | whitehouse.gov
     
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    only 3 1/2 more years, dems better be working up a good strategy.
     
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    Harvey storm total rain will soon be known as new leader. So let us see rain patterns of previous (since 1962) biggest 5:

    top 5 rain.png
     
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    Houston does 'represent' but those events do not include Houston's most recent other rain/flood events.
     
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    step away from the shore.
     
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    Or fix housing code:
    [​IMG]
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    exactly, that's all you see around here. don't forget your car keys if you have bad knees.
     
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    Those vertical posts look reasonable for high water. But I don't see any diagonal braces for the shear forces of earthquakes or high winds. Any idea how well it can hold up to these?
     
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    Seems to work for St. George's Island:
    [​IMG]

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    Oh Bhaaaab, use that link chainy thing
     
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    all those cars will be for sale shortly. one owner, well maintained, low mileage, must sell!
     
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    I've been wondering when we'd see this: Two key pipelines shutting down: gas not flowing Atlanta

    One (Colonial gasoline rjw) pipeline was to be being turned off Wednesday evening, the other will be shut down Thursday, according to a statement from the company. ​

    The last time there was pipeline break and fire. It has taken a week to get the pipeline inventory low enough to shut it down.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Hurricane Irma in mid Atlantic ~17N 35W. Historically about half storms that go through this 'box' make landfall (somewhere); others recurve and just stir the waters.
     
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    Irma will continue to ~17N 48W before models diverge, then we don't know. You can see the heat energy currently available at

    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/at.html

    Whence I copied

    2017_9_1 TCHP Atl.jpg

    Which also shows area of heat extraction in Gulf of Mexico by Harvey.
     
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    Nearby on that aoml site you can run a TCHP loop for Gulf of Mexico to get an idea of Harvey's 'pull'. As we are already talking about how many trillions of gallons of rain came, this may be an interesting event to attempt energy budget closure. I think it would be vague, but hitting the order of magnitude would seem satisfying.

    Harvey will be a long recovery, featuring many dead vehicles and wet drywall. But I am always inclined to cast a eye upwind, and there's Irma.
     
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