All this anti-modernist BS is exactly how really old people act before they drop dead and life goes on without them for a much relieved younger generation... There's no future for these corrupt predatory criminals. Or as Obama said: "Most of the world's problems are caused by really old men refusing to let go of power."
Only two of my vehicles are afflicted by the aptly named 'A.S.S.' I used....A.S.S. wipes on them - costing a total of $20 for both. Of all of the allegedly gas saving gimmicks that government has saddled us with I can only think of one that is more ridiculous - which is the reason that there's really no such thing as a small truck in America these days. My company Jeeplet has A.S.S. I've gotten into the habit of smashing the disable button right after I start the car, but it has the new "smart A.S.S." system that makes the car's victim push the button to disable it after each re-start. HOWEVER (comma!) Sometimes I forget to do so. This will turn out to be a self-licking lollipop because...it's a Jeep, which means it's really a Dodge. THAT means it a 'rough A.S.S.' feature. Leaving an intersection after it engages is about as smooth as a bartender-turned-congress critter answering an adult question in Munich. I expect that this car will be needing a new tranny fairly soon.
Hate Auto Stop On the rare occasions I forget to turn it off on my 2024 Outback it sounds like an old garbage truck
Aren't some Chrysler products made without the option to turn the system off? I think I've heard them referred to as "complete A.S.S.".
Uh -- so, why does the car start so roughly when started by auto stop? Doesn't shake and roar when I start it. kris
Been turning it off with the low temps we've had and having a battery past its midlife. Otherwise, I don't mind auto stop. Actually have been waiting it to come to the US for years. I don't see it going away. Other markets aren't reducing their emission regulations. Following the reduced regulations here to the extent of lowering car prices will just leave the company uncompetitive in those other markets. Somethings wrong? I only notice a shake when the start up happens has I have the brake applied. Otherwise, it smoother and quieter than a cold start. The only big difference between our cars I can think of is mine is direct injection.
My last two rental cars were Volkswagens. Last week I was in a 2026 Jetta, and this week is a 2026 Atlas. They both have excellent auto-stop systems. The startup is very fast, with little noise or vibration. Not unlike our Prius in this regard. Nothing like the last time I experienced this in a rented Malibu, which would cause lights to dim, whole car to shudder etc. The stop is well indicated on the instrument cluster, so you know what happened You can keep the engine running when you stop by using somewhat less pressure on the brake pedal. A very firm foot will trigger the auto-stop, and a less-firm foot will keep the engine running. No need to look for the disable button. You get to choose for yourself for each stop you make, and that makes the whole thing a lot more palatable.
Revisiting this, how old is the battery? Now over 4 years old, I am starting to look into replacing the Outback's battery. Restarts seem rougher, and might take a moment longer now. I'm able to do #3 with the Outback. It might have a drawback of an engine start when not intended from a foot twitch. Don't have other brand and model experience for comparison, but the Subaru has clear symbols for system on or disabled and when the auto stop is on or the car feels it isn't a good idea at that stop. As for #1, the starter might be 2kW in the Jetta. On the subject of the Malibu. The first one to get auto stop after GM ditched the BAS hybrid had two 12V batteries. The added one may even had been a deep cycle type. Wish we'd seen more of that instead of more electrical features on top of auto stop while even trying to use a smaller battery.
A.S.S., ulch, worthy of the acronym On pretty much every ICE-only crossie, SUV & truck sold in this market, including Toyotas. Easier than re-engineering your ICEs -- which Toyota of course, has invested away from as much as possible for an all-hybrid-&-EV future. They don't want to throw billions of dollars away they could get much more mileage out of [rimshot] with EVs / hybrids Given the limits of satisfying emissions with current ICE tech reaching the point of down-low selling unreliable vehicles in NA ~15y now... this was the only solution possible to satisfy both emissions regs, and the big factories appetite for profit brinksmanship. I'd say the reason making most sense for any throttle off the line with A.S.S. upturned... is the fact Otto cycle engines (all but a scant few ICE-onlies in NA, like the current base Honda Civic) use full-length compression strokes and valve timing, rather than the valve-timing-shortened one in Toyota's and Ford's Maverick HEVs. This means less intake mixture to provide resistance on the comp stroke, thus less power needed by the starting electric motor, to overcome it. Less mixture also means less power and torque, so when the ICE does light it won't make as much commotion as a full-stroke Otto will, away from that red light
