I just heard privately from Norm in response to my previous message: CAN-view problems . He's heard of the problem I'm having and does have an upgrade that will fix it. Mmm. It seems that CAN-view has its very own "Blue Screen of Death" So I'm looking for a USB programmer device. Does anyone living in or just North of Seattle have one, and would be willing to let me borrow it for a few days? (I live in Kenmore). If so, PM me and we can set something up. Otherwise I'll get one online. Thanks, Paul.