EPA creates a guaranteed way for Obama emission limits as "Plan B" if Congress won't pass.

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by Rybold, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Politburo

    Politburo Active Member

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    I don't claim to know what any voter did or did not believe in 2008. All I know is that Obama was not hiding anything about his position on environmental legislation. Anyone who is surprised was misinformed and/or ignorant.

    I fail to see how this is relevant to the thread, though.
     
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    I agree that all this is about is indeed, Political power. Cap & Trade if ever passed, will kill the US economy by taxing fuels 50% more than what they do now by putting a cap on emissions. The part they always fail to mention is that, Cars today compared to the early 70's, are burning 90% cleaner but yet they fail to mention this to the sheeple.

    I run my own trucking company and it's bad enough right now with the slow economy. They pass stupid bills in D.C. that hurts guys like me just trying to provide goods to people and to get me a paycheck to keep me business going and to have some spending cash for myself.

    Yep, He's promising to NOT listen to people in Congress much like they never listen to the American people. They DO NOT care about us. All they want to do is have more money and power for themselves. The EPA shouldn't even be a business that I fund. Climate change is real but it is not caused by humans. All Science is trying to do now is link Human activities to rising temperatures and it will remain a THEORY. Climate has changed long before us and will continue to change with or without us.

    If I had an option to move to another country to operate my trucking business without some government yuppie breathing down my neck, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
     
  3. Politburo

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    The proposed legislation does not adjust any fuel taxes.

    According to the API, based on a CBO analysis, fuel prices would increase by $0.90 by 2019. This is 33% of current prices.

    The CBO disputes that analysis, as it assumed that no offsets would be available. Under the scenario CBO considers most likely, price would increase by $0.26 by 2019, just under 10%.

    As for what the American people want, a majority support COP15 and cap and trade. Polls taken December 11-13.
     
  4. tripp

    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    Yes they are... because of government restrictions on emissions. Remember the Catalytic converter? That was supposed to bankrupt the auto-industry. Did it? No. The auto mfgs grossly over-estimated the cost of implementing the device. Furthermore, Honda didn't bitch. They made an engine that met the new standards without needing a CAT. They then licensed this technology (I believe it was an injection technology) to all of their competitors. They made the problem a competitive advantage. GE Transportation did the exact same thing with their excellent locomotives (the best locomotives in the world, BTW). All because of air quality regulations...