"EVSE Upgrade" upgrade charges in 2 hours on 120v.

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  1. What is the function of the 110V plug converter?
     
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    The EVSE upgrade comes with a 240V plug. The 110/120V plug converter will allow the plug to go into normal 120V outlets and charge at the slower rate. The EVSE will identify that it is on a lower voltage plug and charge accordingly.
     
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  4. Ok, got it, so it's a additional adapter. So is the primary voltage 110 and then stepped up to 220, or visa/ Versa. I thought the Pip was only designed for 110. Was the car and EVSE upgraded together ?
     
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    Andy, no I sent in the EVSE to be upgraded to a 220/240.. Sucked because I had to use gas that week. The car can pull down a max of about 1.9 or 2.0 kWh. I think on a 110 it pulls about .9 kWh.
     
  6. I guess I am being a little dense today, I remember it being stressed that the car can only be charged with 110V, is that true ? If so how does the upgraded cord get around that. If not true, the change to the EVSE would be minor and anybody should be able to do it. Remembering one of our techs homemade EVSE, THE JOB SEEMED COMPLEX. THANKS
     
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    Andy the standard EVSE will only charge at 110. Most L2 charger will provide about 1.9kWh to the PiP. Thus the upgraded EVSE will be similar. I do not know what components they add to the EVSE.


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  8. OK Thanks anyway, I'll go search for that homemade one.
     
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    the PiP can't (and doesn't) limit the voltage at which it is charged, only the rate at which it is charged. most public charging stations are L2 @ 220/240 V and those work just fine with the PiP.
     
  11. Not from my experience! Thus far. But I have only used one charging station in the area. A chargepoint. It has 4 positions,, all at 110 Volts.
     
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    if you have the plugshare app, you can search specifically for stations that are L2 to test this out. but i know that i have personally used a public L2 charger. and don't forget that toyota's "official" EVSE partner is Leviton which sells a 220V home installation.
     
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    I use a 220v Chargepoint station to charge my PIP- takes 1h30m.
     
  14. Are you using your cable that you got with the car?
     
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    no, the charging stations have thier own cable and plug. you can get one (or build one) for your home if you have 220/240 avaiable. there are a few threads on it here.
     
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  16. you mean: with the PIP AND a modified or new cable specifically for 220, and to accommodate 110 as well. If one was to interpret your sentence as it stands. A newbie might just plug into 220, that's a NO NO, am I correct?
     
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    no, that's wrong. 220 is 220, it makes no difference whether it can "accommodate" 110. if there's 220 coming from the wall, there's going to be 220 coming from the wall no matter what. there's no way a chord is going to step that down to 110.
    i mean, think about it. why is charging time at 220 half that of 110? if it was still charging at 110, why would the time be any different?
     
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    Guys,

    220V in the USA is achieved by combining two 110V lines that are "split phase". If you only want 110V from a 220V outlet, you only connect one line, if you want 220V you connect both lines. The dual voltage EVSE is designed around this feature.

    The "charger" is in the vehicle, not the cord. When talking about the EVSE you should try to refer to it as a "cord set" rather than as a "charge cord", just to avoid the confusion.

    The charger accommodates both 110V and 220V, which ever voltage potential is present between the two lines. In a 110V case, the lines connected are L1, Neutral, and Ground. In 220V the lines connected are L1, L2, and Ground.

    The way a 110V plug adapter works is by connecting L1 from the EVSE to L1 of the outlet, L2 from the EVSE to Neutral, and Ground to Ground, resulting in 110V between L1 and L2(Neutral).
     
  19. John Hatchet, TY for your very inclusive and accurate reply. I was aware of all of the variations. The point I wanted to establish is, I am quite sure the owners manual says only to plug into 110V, to continue that a NEWBIE may get the idea from ny_rob s post is that one can just go and plug into 220 Volts. Without the proper cable and/or necessary modifications, the Prius cable should not fit mechanically or electrically. Correct? I have not come across any 220 outlets, and if I did would not plug in with my normal cable that came with the car ( if possible ). Isn't the 220 male plug also different, like a a washer/dryer.