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BREAKING: EPA Rates Tesla Model X Range - 90D 257 Miles, P90D 250 Miles

Not too hideous - for an awd 500hp cross over, with a class 3 towing/5,000LB rated capability. Not too sure how accurate Inside EV's data is though - because their page states there's an option for 80amp dual charging, whereas Tesla is saying it'll have a single 60amp on-board charger only. In any event tomorrow will be data streamed from Tesla's web site of the first deliveries.

As Jeremy Clarkson might say, "The enviro-mentalists have come out of their caves!"

and now they're posting articles that indulge in jingoism & outlandishness & general illogic: "Volkswagen’s lies about its clean diesel engine could undermine confidence in other areas, including the German government’s fiscal influence among eurozone members."

LINK: Volkswagen scandal hurts the German government’s hard-won credibility - MarketWatch

This is in response to Bob's thread below from diesel thread. I believe this deserves a separate thread.

First of all: no I am not doubting EPA estimates or calculator accuracy. What I am questioning is the defaults used for calculations. By default annual mileage is set up to 15,000mi with 55% city driving. This gives 8,250mi annual in city, or if car used 5 times a week/total 250 days a year, 33mi a day.

Is it really realistic to assume that the majority of the people drive 33mi a day in the city??

For example, average commute time in LA is 28.6min. Driving 33mi even at whooping 14mph would take 2h20min

Ten cities with the worst traffic
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I've watched over a dozen videos, and this is by far the best explanation from a man who worked on emission controls & understands them:

Csaba Csere says the impact on VW is huge, but the fix is easy..... reprogram the ECU and it will pass.

Timestamp 22:22 : VW's Emissions Nightmare - Autoline
UP FOR DISCUSSION:
-Who knew what and when?
-The casualty list.

SPECIAL GUEST: Brian Bautsch, Lead Safety Engineer, Honda R & D. Join us as we discuss how Honda ACEs the safety test.

All that and much more with John McElroy, Autoline.tv; Gary Vasilash, Automotive Design & Production; Henry Payne, The Detroit News; Csaba Csere, Freelance Auto Writer

Toyota, Mercedes, and Hyundai claimed 1 minute of refuel time for each kilogram of hydrogen pumped into the FCV's tanks. So a 5 kilogram tank requires 5 minutes. In reality real-world drivers say it takes 4 minutes per kilogram.

That means the Mirai's real-world refuel time is closer to 20 minutes (same as a Tesla EV at a supercharger). The government needs better regulations to govern carmakers claims. Allowing them to lowball refuel time is unacceptable.

This week Russell & Danny are joined by Paul, Tony, & Pat for a look inside how Volkswagen got busted for cheating on emissions tests, the repercussions that are coming for them and their owners, and how it might boost plug-in/EV sales. Also, the Apple Titan electric vehicle might be a real car come 2019, […]

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Here is the final version of the walkthrough we Periscope'd and also shot in HD at the 2016 Prius reveal in Las Vegas. The walkthrough is led by the master of specs, @Tideland Prius.



Special thanks to @Russell Frost for shooting the DSLR video, @Linda for handling the shotgun mic, @Prius Team for the introduction, and, of course, @Tideland Prius for his fantastic walkthrough.

We do not get much state-by-state sales data.

So here is plug-in data for Washington State...about 13000 total.
King County is, well, the King of Plug_ins

http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/pdfs/PEVregistrationbycountybymake.pdf

This week Paul joins Tony, Russell & Danny on the slow road to hell that is the 2016 Prius reveal. It’s so slow that we might have an autonomous Google car in production first. Or a Porsche Tesla Model S competitor. Or an Audi e-tron Tesla Model S competitor. Or a Hyundai Prius-fighter. Or maybe […]

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Source: Volkswagen, Audi Expect to “Electrify” Entire Line-Up | TheDetroitBureau.com


You can still find the Utube, "Meet the...

Following the 2016 Prius reveal in Las Vegas, members of the What Drives Us podcast and Toyota’s Prius Experts panel got together for a late night show to talk about what they saw, what they didn’t see, and answer questions from PriusChat.com.

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Audi is the 6th car maker to say they will make a 200+ mile bev by the end of 2018
310 Mile Audi e-tron Quattro Concept Revealed, Production in 2018 (w/videos)
Pretty cool 0.25 drag coeficient for an SUV, but of course it will be higher in the US because of regulations.

Maybe we should count it as only 5 as Porsche is part of vw group like Audi, and they may be sharing batteries, but porshe has a fater charging car concept
Porsche Mission E Revealed: 500 km/310 Mile Range, 60 In 3.5 Seconds, 15 Minute Charges

Ford, Chevy, and Nissan have already made their announcements, and Tesla is currently selling one.

2016 Nissan LEAF: 107 Miles EPA Range - Full Specs/Pricing
The gen II is rumored to be available Q2 2017. This is a in cycle upgrade

where 100 == no pollution

Electric: 65 BMW i3
61 Smart ForTwo EV

Hybrid: 57 Prius C
56 BMW i3 with V2 engine

Gasoline: 54 Mirage 1.2
53 Smart ForTwo 1.0 and Toyota-Scion IQ

Natural Gas: 54 Civic CNG
Diesel: 47 Jetta and Golf

Other Random Cars of Note:
51 Fiesta with 3 cylinder engine
50 Volt
47 Tesla S
40 Charger V6
39 Porsche Panamera hybrid
29 Charger Hellcat (the 707 hp machine reviewers are drooling over)
19 Veyron

Ranked by the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy. LINK:...

You can find all of the 2016 Prius official press photos provided by Toyota to PriusChat in this media album:

2016 Toyota Prius Official Press Photos | PriusChat

Here's a selection.

Toyota's press releases for the 4th generation 2016 Prius vary widely across the world in the information provided and the amount of it. So, I've included all of the press releases from across the world, starting with the global release, then the US release, then the Euro release. Keep in mind that some of the features will vary across the world.

Due to the multiple releases that Toyota is putting out, these are listed in reverse chronological order, with the most recent releases first since they contain more information than the previous.

10/13 Releases

Under the Hood of the All-new Toyota Prius


Toyota City, Japan, October 13, 2015―In its fourth generation, the Toyota Prius is set to take on new markets with groundbreaking environmental performance, a bold new design, and a fun-to-drive spirit. Today, Toyota is proud to unveil the technological advances that enable its hybrid flagship to break the mold while still remaining true to...

We've collected almost 700 photos that the PriusChat team took at the 2016 Prius Reveal.

It might sound like a lot, but believe me, they are definitely worth your time.

2016 Prius Reveal | PriusChat

I searched prior to posting this tidbit. Hadn't seen that this was posted. If so, forgive me. But I came across this today. Is this a joke?

Toyota files patent for flying Prius-style car - Car Keys

Nationwide Launch Of Next-Generation Chevrolet Volt Delayed Until Early Or Mid 2016



Well, so much for getting a Gen 2 Volt this year. Unless you live in California, or one of the other rollout states in a few months.

For comparison, here's the original timeline:

Toyota spends $50 million to accelerate self-driving car program
"Toyota is spending $50 million to accelerate the pace of its autonomous car research, the Japanese automaker announced Friday. The company will use the investment over the next five years to establish joint research facilities at both the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Stanford University, both of which team with professors boasting robotics, engineering and artificial intelligence degrees."