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Elon Musk reveals when you can order a Tesla Model 3 electric car - CNET

The Musk tweet:

"Model 3, our smaller and lower cost sedan will start production in about 2 years. Fully operational Gigafactory needed."

Here it is guys...the thread for discussion on how to improve our infrastructure in the US. Oregon will be taxing road usage on hybrids, things are changing...Gas is low at the moment, but doesn't change the fact we pollute and use our roads.

Here are my thoughts:

• Minimal sales tax on any energy, Gas or Electric
• Tax vehicles (or put a fee on them) annually based on the # of tires, # of miles driven, amount of Carbon exerted - put away the excise tax or make it a set fee on top
• The above will make all vehicles treated equally, will also lower gas prices, and will help our infrastructure. Hybrids would also take advantage because now the amount of pollution exerted is put in the fee
• The pool of money should go to a central organization that is completely transparent
• The amount of road-work needed or vehicle traffic in the US should be transparent per community - and complex math and algorithms should be able to predict who needs the fund
• The funds should...

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	model	Aug_15	Jul_15	Jun_15	May_15
1	Prius Liftback	10450	11203	9559	11921
2	Ram Pickup Diesel	4093	4775	5050	5647
3	Prius c	3844	3517	2756	3763
4	Camry Hybrid	3314	2756	2755	3174
5	Prius v (lowercase v)	3119	2620	2272	3152
6	Fusion Hybrid	2441	2157	1691	2440
7	Passat Diesel	1991	2372	2489	2769
8	Golf Sportwagon Diesel	1977	2174	1506	1419
9	Jetta Diesel	1820	1999	1852	2141
10	Sonata	1647	1837	2334	2943
11	Model S	1600	1800	2800	2300
12	CT200h	1504	1374	1118	1436
13	C-Max Hybrid	1501	1225	1814	1892
14	Leaf	1393	1174	2074	2104
15	Volt	1380	1313	1225	1618
16	Accord Hybrid	1369	1481	1241	1463
17	Avalon Hybrid	1322	1175	973	1114
18	ES Hybrid	1281	891	711	911
19	Optima Hybrid	1167	873	897	1046
20	Golf Diesel	954	903	955	1011
21	Fusion Energi	949	852	727	986
22	i3*	792	935	551	818
23	C-Max Energi	723	693	667	715
24	MKZ	713	725	700	1005
25	RX 400 / 450 h	599	530	486	551
26	Civic Hybrid	590	463	391	458
27	XV Crosstrek Hybrid	455	559	493	557
28	Q5 Diesel	421	567	462	517
29	Q7 Diesel	412	506	360	386
30	Touareg Diesel	411	374	328	348
31	X5 Diesel	391	233	422	1299...

Chevy's New Volt Is Way Better, But Maybe Not Good Enough | WIRED

Pretty good commentary.

We've been offered a great opportunity to help PriusChatters jazz up their existing Prius at a great discount.

From now until Friday, September 11th, you can get $100 off the MSRP of Clazzio leather seats covers. These seat covers are easy to install and amazing quality. I have a beautiful set of two-tone Gray/Light Gray with Blue stitching in my PiP.

Here's the pricing for the sale:

Solid OEM Leather - $399 (save $100 off MSRP)
Two Tone Custom Leather - $499 (save $100 off MSRP)

All you have to do is pick out the color combination you want & enter coupon code 'CLAZZIOGROUP" during checkout.

Clazzio Leather Seat Covers for...

New Toyota Prius photographed completely undisguised

Is the honeymoon over?
UPDATE 13-Oil jumps 8 pct, biggest 3-day surge since 1990| Reuters

I got an invitation to drive the Murai at my local dealer a couple of weeks ago. So I reserved a spot and went last week and drove it.

I'm still against hydrogen fueling, in general, due to the many reasons I and others have mentioned on numerous threads. But the car was nice, drove nice, etc. However, I could only drive on slower side streets...not allowed to go on the freeway...because they wouldn't have enough fuel for everyone! (And they have to be able to drive it back to the refuel station.)

All the things I liked had nothing to do with the power train...just nicer things taken from higher end Toyotas than the Prius. Comfortable leather power seats...automatically slide back when you power off. Side mirrors tilt down when you shift to reverse. AC/heat display . Nicer instrument panel display, etc.

Trunk space...not that great, more like a 2001 Prius. No spare tire. Rear seating head room (no problem for me) but a person that rode with me was 6'0" and complained.

As for...

It doesn't look all electric, but it's close.
BMW: All Models Electric Within Decade - NASDAQ.com

The race is on right now on FS1 with Porsche Hybrids vs. Audi Hybrids. Toyota's there, just rolling behind everyone else. An interesting strategy.

Clear photos of the 2016 Toyota Prius, front & rear.

More 2016 Prius spy shots: SPOTTED! *UNWRAPPED* 2016 Prius spotted this morning! | PriusChat

I love it.






I come from Taiwan Hybrid club



Mod note: Edited to replace first two photos with higher resolution versions and put a short bit of text for clarity.

A Plugin ?!? Wait . . . That's insane. In fact, that's Ludicrous

Tesla Model S P85D Breaks the Consumer Reports Ratings System

A surprise? CR car testers are often slanted to the gear head mentality - so it was unusual to see they rated it above their scale of a perfect 100.
Mod note: Changed link to go directly to Consumer Reports website.

This week Tony, Patrick and Russell discuss a new Hyundai hybrid and EV, Gm building an EV plant in China and long discussion about what type of tech we want in our vehicles.

What types of tech do we want in our vehicles? (ignore the link baity headline) Consumers on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto: meh - Fortune

Another “Prius fighter” but forgive the link bait, this might be real
Spied: EV Variant of Hyundai Prius-Fighter Spills its All-Electric Guts


GM to build half billion EV factory in China General Motors Begins Building $470 Million EV Factory In China - HybridCars.com

Two minutes news...

Hawaii moves away from fossil fuels -...

Get $1.00 for every battery vaporware that comes down the pike, & you might retire
That said, both Isreal & Samsung think it has so much promise, that both find the chemistry to be worthy of investment.

Electric cars could charge in 5 minutes if this tech takes off - Fortune

One can't help but entertain the thought of whether such a battery would be the death knell of the gas car as we know it. Probably not ... but it'd sure be likely to put a dent in the ICE industry. Oh ... and so as not to disappoint Bisco ... yes, we could kiss the hydrogen hoax-mobile good bye .... buahahahahahaa !!

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From 2017 Toyota Prius: This Is It

Toyota sold 8 million hybrids, hybrids represent 13-14% of Toyota USA annual sales.

Source: Before Threats Came Along in the '70s, U.S. Fuel Economy Since 1923 Has Progressed Slowly - HybridCars.com

source: Toyota Set to Unveil All-New Prius | TheDetroitBureau.com

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The Toyota Prius hasn’t had a major update in seven years, and early reports suggest the new one will grow longer, get a little more power, improve fuel economy and possible stretch its range in all-electric mode. Some reports indicate an optional lithium-ion battery may also become available on the 2016 Prius.


Toyota has sent out invitations for journalists to attend a preview of the fourth-generation in Las Vegas on September eighth. The current model has been around since 2009, an unusually long stretch for Toyota.
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Most of the article is flogging their anti-hybrid horse, again. So not a lot of new information except, September 8th, Las Vegas, . . . ('Baby, it is time we take a Vegas trip.') Ok, so maybe a moderator or two?

Bob Wilson

Two minutes news links: Portland airport installs 42 EV chargers http://buff.ly/1EBdsfM Tesla industrial batteries to help reduce power costs to Escondido high schools http://insideevs.com/tesla-power-escondido-schools/ Sexy Tesla charging robot arm https://youtu.be/uMM0lRfX6YI Tesla says, “we didn’t mean ‘unlimited'” http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099608_tesla-letter-to-rein-in-local-supercharger-use-goes-wrong Where does your energy come from visualizations http://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9066685/coal-oil-solar-maps my 2M, University of […]

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