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Prius, Tesla and other, 23 most dangerous cars
The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road
23 most dangerous cars,
#5 Honda CR-V Hybrid (4.6x)*
#6 Tesla Model Y (3.7x)*
#12 Toyota Corolla Hybrid (2.6x)*
#20 Toyota Prius (2.1x)*
#21 Tesla Model S (2.0x)*
* Times greater than overall average of fatality rate per miles driven.
The automaker with most occupant fatalities per miles driven:
#1 Tesla
Obviously these statistics are open to a lot of speculation since there are many reasons why a certain car may end up so high on the fatality list. For an example a car that parents tend to buy for their teenagers could end up high on the list not necessarily due to being built less safe but rather is more likely driven less safe.Isaac Zachary Nov 26, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 5,982 Likes: 2 Replies: 57 -
Gavin Newsom to exclude Tesla from California EV credits
Gavin Newsom says that Tesla will be excluded from the upcoming California EV credits to replace the federal tax credits being eliminated by Trump.
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New study shows: EV batteries last much longer than expected
I have had practically zero capacity loss in my 8.79-kWh Panasonic NMC prismatic-cell 2021 Prius Prime Limited battery so far in four years and over 36,000 miles, still getting a BEV range of 40 miles on a full charge. I should state that I do baby my battery though—never charging it until I am ready to drive, driving gently, keeping it at no more than 70% SOC when the car is not driven, etc.
This study confirms that even regular people see no more than about a 10% capacity loss in general.
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Empty Tank Not Empty?
My 2017 Prius has a gas tank with an 11.3 gallon capacity, according to Toyota specs.
Multiple times over the years I have waited until I have zero bars on the fuel indicator. I want to learn the single-tank range of my Prius and compare the impact of the weather/temperature.
When I fill up I always get about 9.5 gallons. I have never filled up and reached 10 gallons on the gas pump display.
Does Toyota purposely set the fuel tank gauge to display empty when there are actually more than 1.5 gallons remaining? That means you can drive about 75 miles after Prius is “empty.”
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Who will try to save the EV tax credits?
A discussion on what will happen to the EV tax credits under the upcoming Trump administration.
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EV tax credit end good for Tesla?
Trump may end the $7,500 EV tax credit. Elon Musk and Tesla would reap the rewards | CNN Business
Sure glad my wife has some fracking payments coming.mikefocke Nov 15, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 11,359 Likes: 1 Replies: 135 -
Anyone else concerned that tariffs might make cars more expensive?
I tried to find a video that didn't get much into politics, although it's kind of hard to talk about tariffs without mentioning politics. The bottom line of this video is tariffs have shown to increase prices to the consumer. And tariffs that affect cars will cause them to become more expensive. This is amidst a time when econo models are nearly extinct and dealerships have shown they don't mind double dipping and increasing their prices as well.
At any rate, tariffs are known to increase costs to consumers. This is something news outlets from both sides of the political parties have mentioned. It's also a well known fact, so politics or not, it is what it is. I'm not for or against tariffs, but I do see my next car either costing a lot more than this one did or just being too expensive to be feasible. Also car parts could increase in price, making repairs more expensive.
Now we can't be sure if these tariffs will pass through all the political...Isaac Zachary Nov 15, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 3,681 Likes: 0 Replies: 27 -
California’s $100 registration surcharge
Hello my fellow California hybrid, plug in, and ev drivers. I’m sick of paying an extra $100 every year to register my Prius. On top of that, I still have to pay to get it smogged:-(. And, of course I still have to pay state and federal taxes every time I buy gas.
How is that “progressive”? Taxing those of us that drive low/zero emissions, hypermile fuel efficient vehicles? Tax the gas guzzlers. Tax the coal rollers.
Please contact your State of California reps and ask them to vote to repeal the regressive $100 registration surcharge for alternative fuel vehicles.Scarface2005 Nov 13, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 6,905 Likes: 2 Replies: 73 -
Toyota says California-led EV mandates are ‘impossible’ as states fall short of goal
Non-EVs and HEVs might get extremely hard-to-find and expensive in California in less than two years.
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Edmunds on Honda hybrid vs Prius
Caution, the presenter offends my Southern sensibilities which curiously makes both cars seem better:
I am not tempted but in the world of hybrids, fair enough. She does a good job covering the options for those in the market.
Bob Wilsonbwilson4web Nov 9, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 1,575 Likes: 1 Replies: 17 -
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Tideland Prius Nov 1, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 2,776 Likes: 0 Replies: 7 -
Tideland Prius Nov 1, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 5,530 Likes: 2 Replies: 42 -
Munro and advanced manufacturing
The best part is no part:
Bob Wilsonbwilson4web Oct 28, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 2,929 Likes: 0 Replies: 12 -
Toyota chairman says millions of jobs will be lost via EV Future
Wonder why he didn't worry about that issue a decade ago - rather than wait until they (& a couple other auto manufacturers) are in last place with EV's. If you build it (& it's ½ way decent) they will come.
Toyota Chairman Predicts EV-Only Future Will Destroy Millions Of Jobs | Carscoops
So - if regenerative breaking slows down brake pad manufacturing , oh well. Why can't ICE manufacturers build more electric motors & battery plants instead of turbos and V6's.
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Hybrids Hard On Engines
Don't skimp on oils and oil changes.
El Dobro Oct 19, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 7,426 Likes: 0 Replies: 72 -
$1 Billion G'vmt loan to EVgo for charging infrastructure
Ah yes - the government is best to pick a winner. LOL
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/evgo-nears-1-billion-govt-loan-to-take-on-tesla-s-charging-empire/ar-AA1rEVik
The stops we've made at evgo (either for DC or L2) have always been WAY overpriced per kWh, as well as less reliable compared to superchargers. Even so - . I'm sure the motive to prop up evgo is rational, under the notion of creating competition

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We, Robot
For those that missed it last night, here's the link. It starts about 53 minutes in, if you don't want to watch the light show.
For those that don't know, this is about Tesla's latest upcoming tech and vehicles.
We, Robot - YouTubeEl Dobro Oct 11, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 4,659 Likes: 0 Replies: 45 -
Bidirection Charging Coming to California?
The State of California is mulling over the idea of requiring EVs to be bidirectional. That is, if the system needs power they suck it right back out of your car. The practical considerations would be considerable, and I don't know if the state is actually competent to design or create such a program. Certainly my state couldn't do it.
Bidirectional charging may be required on EVs soon due to new CA law | Electrek
Bill Text - SB-1006 Electricity: transmission capacity: reconductoring and grid-enhancing technologies.
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Tideland Prius Oct 2, 2024 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 5,807 Likes: 2 Replies: 49
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