<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Jan 17 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]376907[/snapback]</div> It is truly death defying that we agree on something else - i think. American companies who knowingly hire illegals should have the books thrown against them and at them.... The pay as you go thing is a fallacy - a ruse to increase taxes - a moniker for continued run away govt spending. Seeing how the 100 hours thing is long gone - what did they accomplish anyhow? The simple answer is to stop pork barrel spending, for the fed to concentrate on its responsibilities, get out of the medicine business, the retirement business, etc, etc, etc. Borrowing is important - it is the level as measured against the gdp that should be looked upon and not the total #.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jan 17 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]376850[/snapback]</div> At this instant, the country as a whole appears to be doing well. With this logic though, you could argue that the battle against terrorism under Clinton was a success. A few minor attacks, but nothing too serious, and since there was nothing too serious that was OBVIOUSLY apparent to everyone and everything, there nothing insidious or hidden was occurring either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jan 17 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]376850[/snapback]</div> The rich are getting richer, the poor are poorer and the middle class struggles. Not good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Jan 17 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]376839[/snapback]</div> This is true and there will be huge consequences to pay down the road. Of course, by then the neocons will be thrown out of office, the s**t will hit the fan during another's presidency and the repubs will use their short-sightedness to blame the dems. Just like with Reagan. Make most programs expire after his reign, then give his party ammo to blame the other party. Just like Reagan as governor of CA. Close all the mental institutions, throw the blameless out onto the street, term out then let the repubs blame the liberals for all the crazy homelessness. Tried and true methods of the truly irresponsible. If there is one consistency to the whole game it is a tried and true cynical political ploy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jan, 10:54 AM) [snapback]376927[/snapback]</div> The simple answer is to stop runaway spending on a stupid illegal war, get our troops home, and hold those responsible for getting us into this mess accountable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarinJohn @ Jan 17 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]376940[/snapback]</div> My advice to anyone who can do it is to get rid of all debt, especially mortgage debt. If that's not possible, get a backup plan ready for when the mortgage companies have to call in your loan and you have to leave your home. The games that the cons play never fail and the sheeple never catch on. The other game they play is run up the country's credit card to astronomical levels, cut their own taxes and leave the democrats and the little taxpayer holding the bag. While we're all losing our shirts and getting taxed to death, the cons are sitting pretty on top of their big pile of money. I would love to be in that club except I have a conscience and a soul so I can't join.
5/3/2003, Crawford TX: "We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarinJohn @ Jan 17 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]376940[/snapback]</div> Does that mean clinton was responsible for 9/11? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(EricGo @ Jan 17 2007, 03:30 AM) [snapback]377039[/snapback]</div> Drop the doberman. It is either dbermanmd or dberman or david. I am not to be referred to as a dog.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jan 18 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]377152[/snapback]</div> You know. I agree with this. Actual dobermans could take offense.. :lol: Sorry David. All in good fun. I could not resist.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Jan 18 2007, 07:28 AM) [snapback]377152[/snapback]</div> Old news! We all know everything is Clinton's fault. It's been the neocon mantra for 6 very long and damaging years. Why not state something that is not a 'given'?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alric @ Jan 18 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]377159[/snapback]</div> I do not see the "good fun" or the humor in being called or referred to as a dog. If someone wants to call me a name, do so in person, please - like a man. I would not have problem with that at all. To hide behind the anonymity of the internet is cowardly.
Besides, he's not a doberman - they're strong and smart. He's one of those yappy little chihuahuas who are all bark.
Since EricGo hasn't given us our daily dose yet .... "Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of Hop on Pop." -- Penn State University, April 2, 2002.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Jan 19 2007, 12:39 PM) [snapback]377917[/snapback]</div> He's so stupid his intelligence is measured in MPG He's so stupid his intelligence is measured in miles per millimeters
I don't think its possible to spend more than five minutes at this website: http://www.slate.com/id/76886/ and come away with any conclusion other than George W. Bush is a dangerous idiot. At times I'm almost embarrassed to be an American.
1/23/2006: "He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had decided, you are a state sponsor of terror"