<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JimN @ Apr 4 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]418006[/snapback]</div> I agree with you 100%! I got my 1st car back in 1976 for $500.00 over dealer price from a good Catholic who had 13 kids! He was carsalesman of the month every month for years. He had a HUGEMONGOUS family to support and he did it all with integrity. He had a loyal following that went from one generation to the next. That's how he became carsalesman of the month for a long, long time! Good luck and much success to you!