Hey all, So I finally got a new, albeit used from eBay, ABS module in my 2007 Prius. Doing it myself since mechanic who said I need a new one told me it was $3500 job. Brakes had gone out completely. Problem is, I still have brake, ABS, the left exclamation point, and the V-something dash lights on. Brakes are squeaky and soon after starting to drive a buzzing sound comes on and the brakes stop working. I let the car sit for a couple minutes and they work again for a little until they go out again. Attached are Techstream codes. Now that I got ABS replaced, I bleed the brakes manually in case that was the cause and also because I hear I should after ABS replacement. I am not sure I did it fully, but seemed a steady flow. I have little mechanical experience. I did try and bleed my brakes with techstream, but whenever I started the brake bleeding process it would fail, due to either low voltage or unmet conditions. I did remove the ABS relays like it said. Perhaps I am unsure what ignition mode is, or perhaps my battery is low from sitting. Regardless, I then did it manually. Not sure what to do from here. I believe the new part is working since my brakes work for a little before going off, and also I think I hear it running. Any ideas?
I don't think you're bled correctly or your new assembly is not good You're accumulator pressure should still not be low but it can be if you're not bleeding correctly there's probably air still in the system but letting it sit isn't hurting anything You need to get your battery on a charger the 12 volt and make sure you can make it through the whole process It's not very lengthy and it doesn't take a whole lot of power but I guess some people linger through the process once you do it once or twice or three times You should have it pretty well down pat
How can I tell if the part is bad? When my last one went out, the brakes were completely gone, it didn't behave this way, so that's why I think the part is good. It is supposedly tested by seller as well. I will try charging the battery and see if that is the issue. I'm not sure why the program tells me conditions are not met or voltage may be low. When it says to put ignition on, does that mean with the engine running or just press start button with foot off the brake so it turns the car on but not the engine? Wasn't sure, I think I tried both ways.
No generally you can be in the ACC position which is no foot on the brake one push of the button now one more push of the button and all the dash lights light up that's ACC Do all your testing here leave your charger plugged up to your 12 volt in the back of the car that will give you ample power to bleed the brakes all day long if that's what it takes and that's not what it should take usually I bleed the brakes manually first with the relays out and the power off and everything after I change the thing and that's time-consuming especially with a person that doesn't understand what what you're doing sitting in the car but anyway so I get that out of the way and make sure that that part of it is pretty much good no air is coming out of any of the wheels fittings etc. Then I go to the bleed in the text software and where it talks about bleeding the front brakes and putting a tube in a jar I go past that go past the next one because I've already bled the brakes like this then I get straight to the business with the 30 pumps and 30 seconds that operates the internal valves any air funny business found at this point will just go back up to the reservoir boom so there's that. Then of course my relays go in and then I have my person sitting in the car while I check my rears the pump runs fluid squirts out to giving fitting I close it having release press again do it one more time Make sure there's no more air and do the other side that should get it. A Prius always has brakes at least this model It may not be like they're supposed to be but if you know by the beef and all that what's going on there's no way in the world you will get in a wreck in a Prius because of not being able to stop or if you have this condition I would love to see this car We have tried and tried with ours we've had not ABS no regen breaking at times so on and whatever. But we have always had a pedal just like an old truck without a brake booster and four-wheel drum brakes but we have brakes.
That's IG ON when all the dash comes to life on the second push. The first push was ACC, just the radio and such.
Why do you want the relays out while you bleed the brakes manually? I had them in while bleeding. Once the buzzer sounds, my brakes are completely out. I can push down as hard as a can and it makes a very small difference. The brake pad goes down very easily with no resistance. I have to use the emergency brake to brake until I let my car sit for a bit so I can use the brakes again. I will see if charging the 12v works. I don't have a portable charger, only an indoor one. I did try the techstream process as you described, no foot on brake and pressing start twice such that dash comes on. Just gives me 'low voltage or conditions not met'.
Yes generally that's fine You're over 12 volt You just don't want to be 11.5 or that kind of nonsense That's not 12 volts 12.4 is 12 volts and then some good show perfect in the position where all the lights are on on the dash but you're not in ready You should be able to sit like that for a while make sure your light switches off and all that this process does not really eat up a lot of electricity I mean don't unlearn anything just try to bleed the brakes and see what happens to your lights and all of that stuff. All of our generation twos always have breaks I've ridden around for a year with a bad break actuator Very poor breaking but breaking nonetheless and if you know it you can drive with it for as long as you want anyway that being said try that and see what happens like I say I just run through the first three or four steps next next next next next you know then get to the one that's going to do the 30 pumps.
Most people have found that they need to use a battery charger to keep 12V power high enough to properly bleed the brakes with a scantool (such as Techstream). Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
If my 12v is good then I don't understand why Techstream won't let me run the brake bleeding program. I'm pretty sure I have the correct relays pulled out when I tried, and I also recall being in that ON but not READY mode.
Is there a certain power level it should be? Mine read 12.47 when power was off. I can charge it inside but I don't have a portable battery charger to charge it while running the program. Is it usually necessary?
The blue relays. By the time I get to text software the relays are long back in like I said before but that's just how I do it here The brakes shouldn't be cutting off Not sure what that's about yet.
Yeah I pulled them the blue ones. Huh, so it doesn't mind if you have them out or not for your car when you run the program. Then it is either low voltage or some other reason the program won't run. Hopefully it's the air in the lines cutting off the brakes
Also there was some brake fluid on the top of my ABS, maybe from when I did the replacement but I'm gonna try to undo and redo the top brake line in case it's not sealing properly. Maybe that's causing low pressure and the program to fail? White I'm at it I may try that method where you fill the reservoir until some of it leaks out the top to get air out of the ABS
No you don't want to be undoing and redoing the flared reverse flared inverted flared whatever those are called fittings You want to get them in properly so that they gently hand tighten with a wrench and then snug them up a half a turn after they touch it best they are not supposed to be blasted down loctited down or any of that they do very well when they're just seated and a half a turn or something like that kind of like installing spark plugs with new o-rings You're not trying to slam them home and kill them. You can screw up those flare fittings and they are easy to cross thread. Slow and easy That's what you want to be doing with those If you are seeing fluid on the very top of the ABS unit maybe a little bit to the right and back of the plug you plugged in on the unit You do need to make sure that that is touched seated and about a half a turn when you push on the brake or a person pushes on the brake while you look with a flashlight you should not see any bubbling coming out in between the ferrule that's the thing with the threads and the pipe coming through the Pharaoh and going off into the car to the brake system there should be no bubbling or any fluid coming out at all and they should not be hand tight a little tighter than that but you don't want to wail on them. The air shouldn't be making the brakes cut off they should be no cutting off I'm not sure that's what the terminology we want to be using In our experience the Prius always has breaks always you may have elongated stopping distance because of the way the brakes are not working no regen and no ABS. But you have brakes just like an old Dodge truck with four-wheel drums and no brake booster which to many here that will be a foreign language.
I only used a hand wrench to tighten all of them, I may have tightened more than needed so I may loosen them a tad and check. I'm guessing seated means on there where it is not loose. I will dry the top of the ABS and see if more comes out from where the line connects if I understand you. It's like zero brakes. I can step on it as hard as I can when at a very slight roll and it doesn't stop for a bit, have to use the emergency brake completely for anything. When I let it sit for a minute, they work for a minute. Although they are very squeaky. When the buzzing noise sounds, indicating brake failure I believe, it goes to not at all pretty much.