SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. bwilson4web

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    In the war between empiricists and the forces of Darkness, it is common to see the Dark side try to camouflage as the forces of the enlightenment. A latent recognition of their fraud and humbug. But like the cited cigarette commercial, empirical facts and data win on the bodies of the dead.

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    Amish survived COVID-19 better than most by not locking down | U.S.

    Respiratory during pandemic is not the only way to die either

    Youth Suicide Rates Increased During the COVID-19 Pandemic - National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH).
    6 of 1 ½ a dozen of the other?
     
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    Is anyone up to a 6 count yet on catching the new flu...I mean pandemic. I know a few 5s now.
     
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    it was a bad flu season around here
     
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    Lock the doors, shut down the businesses, fire the workers, everyone in masks...and please everyone...get your 20th miracle booster.
     
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    US Influenza vaccination rates are down following COVID pandemic. 2025 Feb was first month when Influenza infections and hospitalizations exceeded those from COVID. So it's a thing, and things get ridiculed.
     
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    The Lion's Share of covid deaths were for the the aged, infirmed & obese & people with poor health as well as smokers. In other words the most likely to die from something infectious - respiratory wise. With the healthier people being left after the pandemic it would make sense there are less flu deaths now.
     
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    Yep the flu made it's rounds in our family pretty good this year. We stopped the covid tests years ago so have no idea if it was the china flu or just the regular flu....doesn't matter, still sucks to catch it!
     
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    Was just made aware of another bad lung disorder - sometimes fatal (sigh - that's just great) while prepping to donate blood today:
    TRALI
    (transfusion related acute lung injury)
    There's no known screening technique yet & it's somehow related to women's antibodies. Isn't that how SARS, covid, flu &the likework? Our overreacting anybodies?
    The theory is TRALI gets passed on from women. In particular women whose blood came in contact with their child's blood during pregnancy/birth. That scenario somehow creates HLA antibodies in the mother so that should mothers then donate that blood - TRALI can quite rapidly occur. This has been a public service announcementrespiratory fun facts. Moral of the story (perhaps,) if you are having serious surgery that may require blood - you can donate autonomously. Been there done that.
     
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    TRALI first reported in the 50's, recognized in '83:NBK507846
     
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    Pretty weird that Red Cross is just putting out notification geared mostly towards mothers. Had a scheduled surgery in the 1980s that required a couple pints on standby. Scheduled several months in advance the surgeon recommended autonomous donations. Wonder if that was the reason why.
     
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    Hmmm - maybe the Red Cross announcement is out of date (heads up came to my Red Cross app today) because red cross said there is no test for the tainted blood.
     
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    Often people's acceptance of science is directly related on if the findings agree with their belief system.

    Do you believe in evolution?
    What is your opinion of religion?
    Will you change your belief system based on science?

    Scientists discover that all humans come from the same mother who lived 200,000 years ago in Botswana
    "If someone were to stand on a pulpit and say that all humans come from a first woman, Eve, and that this is an indisputable biblical truth, we would probably pay little or very little attention. But if a team of researchers were to publish in the prestigious scientific journal Nature that mitochondrial DNA proves that all of today’s humanity comes from a single woman, we would certainly not be so quick to dismiss it.
    “Mitochondrial DNA and human evolution” was published in 1987 and was the first study to uncover the family tree of human evolution. Moreover, it came to that puzzling conclusion: all human beings come from a single woman, who was quickly christened “Mitochondrial Eve”."

    "To make matters worse, the ‘Y’ chromosomes are inherited paternally, so using the same technique as with mitochondrial DNA, studies have been done to arrive at an original first man, who has been christened “Chromosonic Adam”. "


    " Whether they knew each other or not, they are the parents of all humans on the planet today... even if they lived surrounded by many other men and women like them."

    Other complicating factors are personal biases, prejudice, environmental factors, political whimsy and on and on etc:
    witness the nonsensical violence against an inanimate piece of metal and rubber - Tesla cars or the constant political animosity among individuals in the same country (USA for example) who would prefer to throw mud at each other, cast political insults rather than to cooperate to build a better country for everyone - or to get back on topic argue endlessly about vaccinations rather that seeing both the good and potential areas of improvement.
     
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    That's true, John! I've always been a Christian and had to laugh when I was in biology class and the text was talking about the human eye. It, of course, tried to use evolution to explain how we now have an eyeball and states something like, "Scientists believe a light-sensitive freckle on a frog was the beginning of what would later evolve into an eyeball." That's almost laughable! (And NOT "science" at all.)
    Some have problems with the good Lord creating everything in 6-days but the "big bang theory" now seems to support some sort of ginormous event billions of years ago and, now, the universe is, still, expanding from that event. (So when the Bible says the Lord said, "Let there be light" could that be that start of it all?)
    My son-in-law (who's also a Christian) works with a guy who is a flat earther....he really believes this is just one big flat planet. I don't understand that kind of belief system. (Even Isaiah wrote that the earth was spherical.)
    If we have laws, and we do, who is the lawmaker? Why are we able to use the known laws and launch people safely into an orbit? (By understanding and using the laws of gravity, laws of motion, etc.) It's all pretty fascinating!

    Psalm 19 1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard.
     
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    If somebody just stood up out of the blue and said that, it would NOT be "science" at all, any more than somebody standing up and calling it laughable.

    On the other hand, if decades of study of similar and different visual systems along a bunch of different evolutionary lines led a bunch of people to very similar conclusions, that would have a pretty good start on being "science".

    I have a relative who is absolutely convinced that climate change involving CO₂ from human activity could simply not possibly be a thing, all because the earth and the sky are just so darned huge that nothing wee humans ever do could have any impact on how things go.

    Granted, numbers like earth mass and sky volume are pretty big numbers. And numbers like parts-per-million are pretty small numbers.

    But sheesh, scientific notation was invented so the bigness or smallness of numbers wouldn't have to break anybody's brain.