<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ May 22 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]259332[/snapback]</div> Yup, after showing my uncle pics., and amped's thread links, he was sold. Went to the dealership yesterday, drove off in it. They had 3 on the lot, all were gone by Sunday night... There was actually 3 potential customers in line behind us waiting for a test drive! If only American companies would build stuff this cool.... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ May 22 2006, 03:51 PM) [snapback]259341[/snapback]</div> :lol: Yeah, no kidding eh? I think the sticker was like 17/21, which is BARELY better than my old F150 Lariat, 5.4L V8.... :lol:
You bring up a very good point (though there's a good counterpoint to it... our American companies 'just aren't getting it'). Personally, I was a huge fan of GM until they ditched the EV1. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ May 22 2006, 03:51 PM) [snapback]259341[/snapback]</div>
Amped- I am so jealous! I love my Prius, but I love 4 wheeling, I wish my truck was an FJ! ROCK ON! I think if I had both of those in my garage, I would move my bed to the garage so I could sit and stare at my babies hahaha
It gets less MPGs than an Hummer H3. At least when comparing 4WD manual transmissions. With 4WD auto transmissions, it gets 1 MPG more city and 2 MPG more highway. Hummer H3: 4WD manual - 16/20 4WD auto - 16/19 FJ Cruiser: 4WD manual - 16/19 4WD auto - 17/21 All hail Toyota for creating this awesome FJ Cruiser!!!! All scorn GM for creating the equally fuel efficient H3!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ May 23 2006, 11:03 AM) [snapback]259698[/snapback]</div> :lol: you're hilarious. You're such a funny little clown fish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ May 22 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]259341[/snapback]</div> I don't think people hate Explorers or H3's like they do the 6000 lb jobs. They are somewhat functional and not overly pretentious like Expeditions and H2's. Also, the corporate goodwill is based upon what the future holds. For GM, it holds more and more bigger V8 three-ton SUV's. For Toyota, it holds a Hybrid powertrain in every model, including the trucks. Many dissenters are angry that Toyota gets credit for cars that haven't even been built yet; claiming that at the moment, Toyota still sells V8's and whatnot. But investors don't buy stock for what's on the market today, they buy it for what's in the future. Nate
We'll see who crawls over the rocks first.. FJ or H3. Not to mention the H3 weighs more, has LESS towing capacity, less max payload, less ground clearance (by nearly an inch). It has 220hp @ 5600rpm and 225lb-ft @ 2800rpm vs the FJ's 239hp @ 5200rpm and 278lb-ft @ 3600rpm. Not to mention the FJ has two types of 4WD systems - full time with manual, part-time with automatic. At least in Canada, it's $10,000 cheaper than the Hummer and has standard stability control, and brake assist
I know. I can see where you're coming from "omg Toyota's building another SUV". Either way, it's pretty efficient in most categories. (I think the Impala wins large car or something). There's a difference between the FJ and the Suburban. Do I like the FJ? Yes Is it fuel efficient? No Would I reprimand Toyota? No Why? Because the FJ isn't the useless SUV. The useless one is the Sequoia. Now THAT I would tell Toyota to kill off right now cause it's expensive, thirsty and no better than the Suburban. Here in Canada, a Sequoia 4x4 Limited is $63k. $63k!! That's equivalent to a loaded RX350 or base RX400h.
When GM comes up with a REAL full-hybrid, then we can talk. It's been 10 years....TEN YEARS...since Toyota debuted the Prius and the original THS. 10 years later, it's a mild-assist Vue and...well...it's a Vue...just not very exciting. That's it. A mild-assist 10-20% MPG improvement that starts/stops the engine. And some sort of torque boost. From a belt/alterantor. Wow (not). My opinion. And givng away gas to it's buyers of gas-guzzlers. That's what GM thinks will work longterm. I just read that from another thread. Really. Is that the sign that you need to make more desireable vehicles, despite the low MPG of said vehicles? Cheers, Curt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(amped @ May 18 2006, 05:01 PM) [snapback]257704[/snapback]</div> you have three! toyotas. 2 of which get great Mp/g. You've got it all wrong. You need, the one SUV(be it the cruiser or whatever) for cargo, on hybrid for daily driving, and a sports car for fun. What's the point of having 3 cars that are all the same?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GasGuzzler87 @ Jun 18 2006, 01:24 AM) [snapback]272979[/snapback]</div> Not shown on this forum (Danny would have kittens) : 1967 Toyota 2000 GT and 2002 Porsche 996 TT w/X-50 Power Package. OTOH, FJ can do some things a sports car can't, like mine at Sunset Beach, OR:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Jun 28 2006, 09:08 AM) [snapback]278073[/snapback]</div> Yes, an MF-10 (twin-cam, triple carbs, non-a/c) restored to factory new condition. Anyone who sees it thinks it's a new model Toyota even though it's 40 years old. A Japanese icon that once held many closed course speed records and introduced several new design and manufacturing firsts for a JDM produced vehicle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(flareak @ Jun 28 2006, 11:29 AM) [snapback]278140[/snapback]</div> Heh, I bought the GT used in the late '70's for $5K when they were below collector's radar screens. I'll probably sell it at Barrett-Jackson next year. They seem to think it will bring well into six figures based on latest sales of other MF-10's. Not a bad ROI, and I can't drive stock certificates.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Jun 29 2006, 12:21 AM) [snapback]278485[/snapback]</div> TP, the GT has become too valuable for street use. I have pics, including the body-off restoration. I don't believe they're welcome on this forum, though.
