This Is How Big Oil Will Die

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  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    Thanks for the nifty side discussion on electric boats, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

    Another question for discussion: who says big oil will die? They've got plenty of smart people. They've established themselves financially. Some of them have already done massive diversification (and divestitures and spinoffs etc;)

    Not every classic industry is bound to die. The rail barons could have decided they were in the transportation business instead of the choo-choo business. The newpapers could have decided they were in the news and information business instead of the printing stuff on paper business.

    I know of some efforts that various oil companies have made to stay in business post-petro. We bought our first solar panels from an Atlantic Richfield subsidiary in 1986. And then there's all the nastiness with Chevron and NiMH batteries... so they may continue in energy or other fields, independent of petroleum. What else is out there?
     
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    The coke for steel making could come from coal too. Yeah I know, another hydrocarbon, out of the ground, strip mining or whatever. Just noting it's not necessarily from oil.
     
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    Are a lot of these ships (and planes/trains) tearing around the globe due to low wages offshore? Or is that for FHOP?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Artesanal steel is made with charcoal.

    Not just wages, but also environmental regulations. The US government developed ways of tanning leather with less pollution, and when the laws were made stricter, the companies moved leather tanning to India. and elsewhere.
     
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    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

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    Yeah leather tanning is terrible. :(
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Yeah, but even when wages flaten out across the globe.....and they eventually WILL, you're going to need the same planes, trains, ships etc for distribution even MORE because then more and more people will be battling porch piracy.....and it's cheaper to ship rubber dog turds to 100 countries from one than it is to build 101 rubber dog turd factories.....

    Regenerative feedback loop....
     
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    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

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    If people would just slow down, on fornicating and buying rubber dog turds, we'd be in good shape. :)
     
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    Factories@48. Nothing about autodog from a submariner seems odd.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Urban Dictionary: Autodog
    Strangely...we never called ours that.
    On either of my two boats nor in any of my contemporaries' sea stories.
    In fact, the very first time I (remember that I) heard that term used was a few days ago while I was reading a squib on Whitey Mack (Skipper of the Lapon - SSN-661) on one of those blogs explaining quaint bubblehead lingo.

    I do not know if my 10 patrols predate or postdate "Autodog".....

    LOTS happened in the silent service in the last few years of the 60's....
     
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