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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Jul 15, 2025 at 11:03 PM.

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  1. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

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    It's supposed to represent "Beyond zero". But nothing is beyond zero and nothing creates an infinite fuel supply (as bz implies) just by fuelling w/electricity. Electricity roughly has 30kWh hours of energy when extracting for ac/dc & dc/ac double conversions, not even counting cost for transportation to get either fuel source to your tank/battery. So there's an Equivalency estimate the industry creates.
    Currently the ionic 6, model 3, lucid are pretty close to a 3-way tie for greatest eficiency / miles/kWh.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    This time it took an internal crisis from realizing Tesla had them beat on Ev production costs and faster EV market share growth than they planned for. Their designs are improving, but they'll be hampered by part shortages in the short term.
    Parents went with American made SAS last year. Cheapest sneaker was $200 then.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    There was a time after the iPhone came out that "i<anything>" became popular to the point of RIDDIKULUS:

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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Toyota showed excellent skill with incremental improvements in Prius and even expanding the line with variants. This is one area Tesla is lagging because between 2018 and 2025, Model 3 efficiency, the 'kWh/100 miles' did not improve. Other internal parts and assemblies did get mechanically better but not what costs the owner's to operate the car.

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    The eradication of the resistance heater (vs heat pump - thru its varying temperature/environments) certainly improved efficiency
     
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    Sometimes it is easy to overlook or underestimate a corporate structure.

    One of the Pillars of the Toyota Production System is Continuous Improvement.

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