I could mirror much the same from my viewpoint - religious and/or Christians have been pegged and vilified by some, then followed up by endless bickering of what is meant. No bad feelings were meant at you kochira, and I know you intended none at me. The root problem with threads of this nature at PC is not semantics or lack of understanding...99% of the time it gets worked out. The real problem is some are utterly unable to agree to disagree...they are bent on making the other viewpoint uncomfortable, unwelcome. Then they scream they are persecuted in a self-fulfilling prophecy. It took a long time for me to start a thread like this, but it was in response to the boatload of threads questioning religion...no belief has 100% of the answers - no belief is invulnerable to those questioning it. Peace.